intresting poll of what the military thinks

[CobraClone]

What would a dictator with an ego like saddam had, leave his own country for? I'm sure he didn't expect the U.S. to actually come in and remove him from power. This is only speculation of course, but he probably thought the U.S. would just threaten and not follow through. Maybe the U.N. would come in and look around like they had before, but nothing more than a stern letter from them would come from it as usual.

Do you really believe we would get U.N./world support for anything? Have we ever?
The U.S. puts more $$ into the U.N. than any other country in the world, by far, and gets the least support from it. Yes, we have some allies, and we need to support them to the best of our ability, but by no means will the "world" ever support us nor should we expect them to.PERIOD.

[4dmin]

What would a dictator with an ego like saddam had, leave his own country for? I'm sure he didn't expect the U.S. to actually come in and remove him from power. This is only speculation of course, but he probably thought the U.S. would just threaten and not follow through. Maybe the U.N. would come in and look around like they had before, but nothing more than a stern letter from them would come from it as usual.

Do you really believe we would get U.N./world support for anything? Have we ever?
The U.S. puts more $$ into the U.N. than any other country in the world, by far, and gets the least support from it. Yes, we have some allies, and we need to support them to the best of our ability, but by no means will the "world" ever support us nor should we expect them to.PERIOD.

you kinda answered my question. if someone w/ an ego like saddam didn't think we were going to do anything why would he of sent his "WMD" out of the country and why was he hiding in a bunker?

as far as the UN we get the least support b/c we are starting the most shit... sorry but we stick our nose in everyone's business way too much. worst thing for us right now is to get McCain in office b/c we will be in Iran, Pakistan, or Korea w/ in the next 4 years.

[CobraClone]

As much as I disagree with it, we stick our noses in everyone's business, because everyone wants/expects us to. We are too nice. They talk trash behind our backs, but then when they need help, we are the first they call.

I think mccain knows better than to spred us that thin. Obama on the other hand doesn't want to spred us thin either, he just wants to cut defense spending.

[4dmin]

As much as I disagree with it, we stick our noses in everyone's business, because everyone wants/expects us to. We are too nice. They talk trash behind our backs, but then when they need help, we are the first they call.

I think mccain knows better than to spred us that thin. Obama on the other hand doesn't want to spred us thin, he just wants to cut defense spending.

oh i agree in a firm hand... if it was determined iraq was behind 9/11 i suggest go nuclear and worry about clean up later like japan. shit look at what our war did to them (one of world super powers now)

nothing wrong w/ cutting defense... its pretty retarded when we are spending billions like running water. that money should of been pumped into our economy in education, infrastructure, energy, etc. 25% of military budget is like 150 billion dollars (approx)... that money could easily be allocated to put the 40% of unemployed construction workers back to work here in the US repairing bridges/roads and building schools/hospitals/secure border, etc.

[CobraClone]

I agree, we are spending $$ much too freely. I say this because I don't think we could/should reduce defense spending immediately, but the next Pres. has to go over the budget and get things in order. Once this happens, we will be able to reduce these costs.

[BanginJimmy]

nothing wrong w/ cutting defense... its pretty retarded when we are spending billions like running water. that money should of been pumped into our economy in education, infrastructure, energy, etc. 25% of military budget is like 150 billion dollars (approx)... that money could easily be allocated to put the 40% of unemployed construction workers back to work here in the US repairing bridges/roads and building schools/hospitals/secure border, etc.

The military and intelligence was there Clinton got most of his cuts form too and it only made us more vunerable to attack.

Listen to where Obama wants to cut military though. Cuts in the upkeep of the nuke arsenal, cuts in modernizing, cuts in R&D. All of these things are what keeps us from being attacked. Having the best nuke arsenal keeps enemies from using nukes against us (MAD doctrine). Having the best weapons keeps enemies from attacking us conventionally. If anything we need to put moe money into modernizing and R&D for this new type of warfare we are seeing now.


Just payments made to personnel and veteran/retirees totals more than $125B of the $500B budget. That number does not include medical care and individual basic equipment for active and reserve components.

[4dmin]

The military and intelligence was there Clinton got most of his cuts form too and it only made us more vunerable to attack.

Listen to where Obama wants to cut military though. Cuts in the upkeep of the nuke arsenal, cuts in modernizing, cuts in R&D. All of these things are what keeps us from being attacked. Having the best nuke arsenal keeps enemies from using nukes against us (MAD doctrine). Having the best weapons keeps enemies from attacking us conventionally. If anything we need to put moe money into modernizing and R&D for this new type of warfare we are seeing now.


Just payments made to personnel and veteran/retirees totals more than $125B of the $500B budget. That number does not include medical care and individual basic equipment for active and reserve components.

all of the military spending didn't prevent 9/11

you can't spend money on weapons against terrorism... technology yes weapons no.

[BanginJimmy]

depends on what you call a weapon. As far as the military is concerned, info is every bit as much a weapon as a bomb is. One of the newest weapons is armed unmanned drones that have flight times of 30+ hours. As soon as those can be put to use on the battlefield it will make a large dent in the ability of using radio controlled roadside bombs as these drones can fly over convoy routes hours beforehand and catch some of the people looking to plant or detonate these bombs.