Quote Originally Posted by tony
Also Marx didnt believe in "spead the wealth," he believed in a classless society because in his theory the wealthy "bourgeoisie" tends to own the mode of production and exploit the lower class.

Its funny how people mash Karl Marx and Socialism together when the two are different ideologies.. but I guess thats what a lack of education does. Or public education as Boortz would put it? Marx was upper middleclass by the way.
In the strictest form you are right.

However, giving welfare checks to people who dont pay taxes fails to see an end to laziness. I think we should have more opportunities in the country, not government handouts.

do i agree with taxing the upper class higher? To an extent yes.
250,000? no
500,000+ is a better number especially with the rampant inflation we are going to be hit with.

These are tax dollars i go toward the government. It is INCREDIBLY socialist to distribute my tax dollars for the betterment of our country for some lazy ass who cant get out and work. Id support it for maybe 3 months (average for unemployment) but not for years. Especially not for popping out a kid = pay raise.

this really intices me to become unemployed and suck up your tax dollars to fund my house while working "under the table". Marxism is similar, and any form of it has been shown to be utter failure. Look at Canada's and Britain's healthcare. Hell Britain made a law that you had to see someone within 4 hours of a patient coming in to ER. Thats how bad its gotten.

Everytime i see some sort of capitalism + marxism of any form i see epic failure. Look at our housing crisis. Instead of letting the free market determine who was able to get a loan for x amount of dollars they employed the Community Reinvestment Act, deregulated it to hell via ACORN, and cant point the finger at anyone short of the "greedy wallstreet investors" that the GOVERNMENT SOLD IT TO as a mortgage backed security.

I see more tampering = collapse of capitalism to be honest. same as how the soviet union went down when they couldnt "tax themselves in to fruition"

anyway thanks for the input. I think it looks good on paper, but like communism/socialism it doesnt work psychologically and employs laziness.

Quote Originally Posted by tony
That was assuming a 10% profit margin, find how many businesses are doing $2.5 Million in receipts WITH a 10% profit margin.. that 22% drops even more.
Exxon... 8.9%
5% of it is taxed by the government.

eg: if you paid 4.00 for gas exxon would make rougly what? .36? government half of that. Who is really gouging?