Quote Originally Posted by tony
And he still isn't, Ali Khamenei is the Surpeme Leader of Iran. Focusing on Ahmadinejad is like saying Dick Cheney is the leader of the United States.
I never said he was the HMFIC, would you not agree that he is indeed in a position of great power?

Quote Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott
So basically, you're saying that the American, Christian-based society, and the Islamic societies of the world cannot possibly coexist on the same planet, and there will eventually be a war between the two?
take a look at history, when has there ever been peace between these two ideals? the answer is: never

Quote Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott
If this is your belief, I don't know how you sleep at night. This is the kind of thinking that CAUSES wars, which is exactly what you're suggesting. Look at the last preemptive war we started. Do you think it was really worth the 4,000 American casualties and practically $1Trillion that it has cost to take Saddam out of power? Iraq and Iran fought each other for 10 years, and neither side won...meaning Iran is just as formidable as Iraq was....but Iran hasn't been under intense sanctions like Iraq was in the 12 years before we invaded it. Plus, it will be all too easy for Iran to convince it's people that America is on a giant crusade to rid the world of Islam.
1) I sleep quite well, thanks
2) Yes, it is (and was) worth freeing an entire nation of people from underneath the dictatorship of Saddam.
3) The last war we DIDNT (WW2) start and joined in just in the nick of time cost over 400,000 american lives to preserve liberty.

Quote Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott
So think about how many more Americans will have to die. Think about how much deeper into the crapper our economy will go. Think about how bad our image is to the rest of the world now, and multiply that times 10 (contrary to popular belief, we actually do need to interact with the rest of the world). Think about all of these things when you tell yourself that it's OK to arbitrarily invade countries without giving diplomacy a chance.
So when would you propose that this "diplomacy" period has run out? When is enough enough?

Quote Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott
Alright, my feet hurt from standing on this soapbox for so long. Oh, and BTW, I'm not just talking out of my ass. Besides the fact that I worked intel for 8 years in the AF, I'm now a Senior, political science (international studies) major at Augusta State University. I've done some homework.
That is terrific, having served in the AF myself as a crew chief on 15s and 22s. We used to make fun of you guys with desk jobs in "intel." lol