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I agree with you there.
I agree with you there.
The dollar is devalued as well sir. Its not only because of Oil...Hey Paul, you heard of this thing called OIL? I think we use alot of it, i may be wrong, but im pretty sure its a neccessity.
LOL
OIL is whats causing prices to go up, nothing else. They are raising prices on goods to deal with 100$+ barrels or oil.
But you prob think its because George Bush said so
CHASE ->>> WHAT MATTERS
I guess u dont work in the I.T. field... The reason why I'm barely over 9 an hour is due to this outsourcing. Ask ANYONE in the I.T. field and watch em rant. Call IBM or HP or Microsoft or any other business related to this field and see who u talk to. Someone in fukin India. The whole reason why I left GA in the first place cuz HP moved most of its data servers and services overseas KILLING my dreams of making a living in the south.
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Yes, entry level I.T. positions where you only know how to turn on a computer pay $9 an hour. If you actually have a degree, you shouldn't make less than $30.
Sigh its like talking to a brick wall.
I need to be educated? i think i know just as much as most of the people in this thread.
Let me know what reality you are living in, do you even know what GDP is?
Real personal consumption expenditures increased 1.7 percent in the second quarter, compared
with an increase of 0.9 percent in the first. Real nonresidential fixed investment increased 2.2 percent,
compared with an increase of 2.4 percent. Nonresidential structures increased 13.7 percent, compared
with an increase of 8.6 percent. Equipment and software decreased 3.2 percent, compared with a
decrease of 0.6 percent. Real residential fixed investment decreased 15.7 percent, compared with a
decrease of 25.1 percent.
Real exports of goods and services increased 13.2 percent in the second quarter, compared with an
increase of 5.1 percent in the first. Real imports of goods and services decreased 7.6 percent, compared
with a decrease of 0.8 percent.
Real federal government consumption expenditures and gross investment increased 6.8 percent in
the second quarter, compared with an increase of 5.8 percent in the first. National defense increased 7.4
percent, compared with an increase of 7.3 percent. Nondefense increased 5.5 percent, compared with an
increase of 2.9 percent. Real state and local government consumption expenditures and gross
investment increased 2.2 percent, in contrast to a decrease of 0.3 percent.Profits from current production (corporate profits with inventory valuation and capital
consumption adjustments) decreased $37.8 billion in the second quarter, compared with a decrease of
$17.6 billion in the first quarter. Current-production cash flow (net cash flow with inventory valuation
and capital consumption adjustments) -- the internal funds available to corporations for investment --
decreased $41.3 billion in the second quarter, in contrast to an increase of $10.1 billion in the first.
Taxes on corporate income increased $7.4 billion in the second quarter, in contrast to a decrease
of $30.6 billion in the first. Profits after tax with inventory valuation and capital consumption
adjustments decreased $45.2 billion in the second quarter, in contrast to an increase of $13.0 billion in
the first. Dividends increased $14.0 billion compared with an increase of $16.1 billion; current-
production undistributed profits decreased $59.2 billion, compared with a decrease of $3.1 billion.GDP-The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI) is one of the measures of national income and output for a given country's economy. GDP is defined as the total market value of all final goods and services produced within the country in a given period of time (usually a calendar year). It is also considered the sum of value added at every stage of production (the intermediate stages) of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time, and it is given a money value.The rest-of-the-world component of profits decreased $15.6 billion in the second quarter,
compared with a decrease of $22.8 billion in the first. This measure is calculated as (1) receipts by U.S.
residents of earnings from their foreign affiliates plus dividends received by U.S. residents from
unaffiliated foreign corporations minus (2) payments by U.S. affiliates of earnings to their foreign
parents plus dividends paid by U.S. corporations to unaffiliated foreign residents. The second-quarter
decrease was accounted for by a smaller increase in receipts than in payments.
So yeah, youre wrong
Last edited by Mr. KiDD; 09-17-2008 at 10:22 PM.
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Since nobody really hit on their position on this
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paid sick time and vacation is called a benefit for a reason. If you dont come to work, you dont get paid, I dont see what is so difficult to understand about that.
93 dollars a barrel. Last time it was that price is was ~3 bucks a gallon. It is over 4 right now.Hey Paul, you heard of this thing called OIL? I think we use alot of it, i may be wrong, but im pretty sure its a neccessity.
LOL
OIL is whats causing prices to go up, nothing else. They are raising prices on goods to deal with 100$+ barrels or oil.
But you prob think its because George Bush said so
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2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
thats because of SPECULATORS and the Hurricame
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Hurricane Ike has refining capacity way down right now. I believe capacity was somewhere around 75% for the next week or so before it will get back to full capacity.
Also, I dont know where you are paying $4, though. I filled my tank today for $3.91 for 89.
If u wasnt bein sarcastic, I'm aware of that. I'm currently enrolled at ITT thank u very much. I'm stating that fact because... the people whom I joined at HP used to make $23 an hour doing the same job they are doing right now at $10. Before becoming outsourced.
CHASE ->>> WHAT MATTERS
Its 4.09 here... due to the fact that Ohio gets most of its fuel from the gulf.
It spiked to 4.49 for 1 day, that was 3days ago
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I'll vouch for this one. My hours have been cut down to nothing.
Im bumping this to show everyone who's voting for obama how sucky your life is going to be.
Theres not much more socialist than McCain's plan of buying up bad mortgages.. lol at least Obama wants to spend on shit that will benefit the people and not socialize the entire real estate market.
You won get a complaint from me as far as McCain goes, but socializing the healthcare system is even worse.
Hell, we alrady have a perfect model of it here in the US. It is called medicare, and we see all the time just how bad that program is designed and managed. Just imagine what will happen when you get another 50 million people in it.
Let me get this straight, buying worthless mortgages is BETTER than providing healthcare for your citizens? Interesting..
Obviously there needs to be immigration reform before implementing a healthcare plan but I hardly see how giving money back to irresponsible mortgage companies is better than providing for the health of your citizens.
I've noticed to things about you since you've joined in the political discussions.
1. You don't research, you pull talking points regardless of how factual they are and use them to validate your views.
2. You give credit only to those who agree with your viewpoints, not those who make valid ones. Which makes information that you bring forth virtually worthless because you are blinded by your bias and will probably never be enlightened.
Heres the thing (and I'm not talking to just you any more) if someone comes to this discussion with the ability to only see their side of the coin then they can consider theirself an idiot, because those viewpoints will prevent you from ever growing as an idividual.
These arguments, when I'm going back and forth with BanginJimmy or KiDD. I have just as passionate disagreements with my friends that are for Barack Obama DAILY.. matter of fact those arguments get more heated. The idea is to be objective as to not be blinded by your own views, take a second to at least consider what the other side is saying rather than immediately jump on the defensive, or calling someone on the other side something derogatory.
You arent understanding me, I dont agree with either program, I simply think that the healthcare program will be much further reaching and be much harder to fix after it is implemented than buying up the mortgages.
We are in complete agreement here. The healthcare system is a problem, but is it the cause, or just a symptom of another cause? I think it is mearly a symptom and no changes made to the program will work unless the cause is fixed first. Its not the only cause, but the biggest contributer is indigent care, and illegals are a major part of that. being forced to care for people that arent going to pay for it causes hospitals to incrimentally raise prices on everything else. That causes insurance companies to cut benefits, raise co-pays, deductables, and rates to cover the additional costs.
I dont either, but irresponsibility wasnt the only thing going on. A major portion of it was complying with CRA (community Reinvestment Act) stipulations.
I like to think I am pretty open to other views without too much bias involved, but I have to admit that it is much easier for me than some others. I actually think both canidates are idiots, and really dont support either of them.
Nah I wasnt saying you arent objective, I've known you don't care for both candidates. People on both sides, those who cannot see past Barack or McCain annoy the hell out of me. I have a friend that believes all republicans are evil, Bush is the cause of everything and it is just as annoying as some of the McCain supporters I meet on here.
Ultimately I wish the PEOPLE were more educated and held the government responsible on the peoples term.. not look to politicians to do it for them. When CEO's go on a $420k spending spree after we bailed out their corporation we need to be on their ASS and not wait for Bush, Obama, or McCain to do it for us.
everything you just said, apply it to yourself. No matter how irrefutable the evidence no matter how many times i prove people wrong, and no matter how many times i post the truth, you and admin refuse to look past YOUR bias, and see whats true. Just like the video i posted putting the housing bubble blame on dems, irrefutable, yet you and admin refuse to see the light.
x's 600million.
As i've stated before, i wouldn't vote for either of these idiots for dog catcher.
Propaganda is completely "refutable" because it is just that; Propaganda. Just cause I don't agree with you doesnt mean I don't remain objective.. it just means I've looked at both sides and I still don't agree.
Please show me it's propaganda. It was factual evidence backed by facts and screenshots of bills and articles with statements from both sides of the fence. I dont make a post without doing a lot of research. This post for instance, i took the time to read through his economic platform and state my opinion. No one has yet to give me an argument on my opinion because the generalizations of the statements that i did are pretty clear cut. There's not really any other way to take it. And i dont know who you're refering to with the name calling, i have refrained from that, as it deters away from making a point and goes into having nothing else to say, lol. I respect you, and you've been for Ron Paul since day one, like me, i just don't see what you see in obama that you saw in ron.
Did it provide solutions for lowering gas prices? Stop the free fall of the stock market? Help families afford healthcare or put food on the table? Did it mention ANY solutions to the economic crisis we are in right now?
No, your little propaganda video did nothing but point fingers.. which is why it was a waste of time. And propaganda?
Propaganda: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person.
No solutions, only finger pointing to make their cause just. That is what your video was. Again, you are too biased to provide an intelligent and/or objective thought here.
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