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    Im bumping this to show everyone who's voting for obama how sucky your life is going to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
    Im bumping this to show everyone who's voting for obama how sucky your life is going to be.
    I've noticed to things about you since you've joined in the political discussions.

    1. You don't research, you pull talking points regardless of how factual they are and use them to validate your views.

    2. You give credit only to those who agree with your viewpoints, not those who make valid ones. Which makes information that you bring forth virtually worthless because you are blinded by your bias and will probably never be enlightened.

    Heres the thing (and I'm not talking to just you any more) if someone comes to this discussion with the ability to only see their side of the coin then they can consider theirself an idiot, because those viewpoints will prevent you from ever growing as an idividual.

    These arguments, when I'm going back and forth with BanginJimmy or KiDD. I have just as passionate disagreements with my friends that are for Barack Obama DAILY.. matter of fact those arguments get more heated. The idea is to be objective as to not be blinded by your own views, take a second to at least consider what the other side is saying rather than immediately jump on the defensive, or calling someone on the other side something derogatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    These arguments, when I'm going back and forth with BanginJimmy or KiDD.
    I like to think I am pretty open to other views without too much bias involved, but I have to admit that it is much easier for me than some others. I actually think both canidates are idiots, and really dont support either of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I like to think I am pretty open to other views without too much bias involved, but I have to admit that it is much easier for me than some others. I actually think both canidates are idiots, and really dont support either of them.
    Nah I wasnt saying you arent objective, I've known you don't care for both candidates. People on both sides, those who cannot see past Barack or McCain annoy the hell out of me. I have a friend that believes all republicans are evil, Bush is the cause of everything and it is just as annoying as some of the McCain supporters I meet on here.

    Ultimately I wish the PEOPLE were more educated and held the government responsible on the peoples term.. not look to politicians to do it for them. When CEO's go on a $420k spending spree after we bailed out their corporation we need to be on their ASS and not wait for Bush, Obama, or McCain to do it for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I like to think I am pretty open to other views without too much bias involved, but I have to admit that it is much easier for me than some others. I actually think both canidates are idiots, and really dont support either of them.

    x's 600million.

    As i've stated before, i wouldn't vote for either of these idiots for dog catcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    I've noticed to things about you since you've joined in the political discussions.

    1. You don't research, you pull talking points regardless of how factual they are and use them to validate your views.

    2. You give credit only to those who agree with your viewpoints, not those who make valid ones. Which makes information that you bring forth virtually worthless because you are blinded by your bias and will probably never be enlightened.

    Heres the thing (and I'm not talking to just you any more) if someone comes to this discussion with the ability to only see their side of the coin then they can consider theirself an idiot, because those viewpoints will prevent you from ever growing as an idividual.

    These arguments, when I'm going back and forth with BanginJimmy or KiDD. I have just as passionate disagreements with my friends that are for Barack Obama DAILY.. matter of fact those arguments get more heated. The idea is to be objective as to not be blinded by your own views, take a second to at least consider what the other side is saying rather than immediately jump on the defensive, or calling someone on the other side something derogatory.

    everything you just said, apply it to yourself. No matter how irrefutable the evidence no matter how many times i prove people wrong, and no matter how many times i post the truth, you and admin refuse to look past YOUR bias, and see whats true. Just like the video i posted putting the housing bubble blame on dems, irrefutable, yet you and admin refuse to see the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
    everything you just said, apply it to yourself. No matter how irrefutable the evidence no matter how many times i prove people wrong, and no matter how many times i post the truth, you and admin refuse to look past YOUR bias, and see whats true. Just like the video i posted putting the housing bubble blame on dems, irrefutable, yet you and admin refuse to see the light.
    Propaganda is completely "refutable" because it is just that; Propaganda. Just cause I don't agree with you doesnt mean I don't remain objective.. it just means I've looked at both sides and I still don't agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Propaganda is completely "refutable" because it is just that; Propaganda. Just cause I don't agree with you doesnt mean I don't remain objective.. it just means I've looked at both sides and I still don't agree.
    Please show me it's propaganda. It was factual evidence backed by facts and screenshots of bills and articles with statements from both sides of the fence. I dont make a post without doing a lot of research. This post for instance, i took the time to read through his economic platform and state my opinion. No one has yet to give me an argument on my opinion because the generalizations of the statements that i did are pretty clear cut. There's not really any other way to take it. And i dont know who you're refering to with the name calling, i have refrained from that, as it deters away from making a point and goes into having nothing else to say, lol. I respect you, and you've been for Ron Paul since day one, like me, i just don't see what you see in obama that you saw in ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willum14pb
    Please show me it's propaganda.
    Did it provide solutions for lowering gas prices? Stop the free fall of the stock market? Help families afford healthcare or put food on the table? Did it mention ANY solutions to the economic crisis we are in right now?

    No, your little propaganda video did nothing but point fingers.. which is why it was a waste of time. And propaganda?

    Propaganda: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person.

    No solutions, only finger pointing to make their cause just. That is what your video was. Again, you are too biased to provide an intelligent and/or objective thought here.

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