Originally Posted by meepnork
That's why, if you notice, I pointed out a solution, rather than containment.
Kaiser's Three Step Solution, simplified!
1.) Erase the difference between citizens and non-citizens. (This is already starting in some ways, such as giving CITIZEN'S rights to the Gitmo detainees who would have been shot by any country that followed the Geneva conventions)
2.) Erase taxes based on the income of individual citizens. (This is a direct tax that had to have a constitutional amendment to be enacted, it's against the spirit of the tax rules in the articles of the constitution, and was struck down before the government pulled a massive campaign to have it enacted as an amendment under the guise of a "Temporary War Tax" that never went away)
3.) Require citizens to provide FOR THEMSELVES whenever possible. (Temporary assistance for those who are in true need is good. Unemployment assistance is a good thing. Paying for people's retirement or healthcare is BAD. The government's job is to protect us, defend us, and enforce the laws. Not to hand out money to people or to pay for you to have your kids born when you don't have enough money to pay for it. Learn some responsibility!)
When you do all this, you literally remove the blocks that prop up the illegal migrant worker phenomenon. Yes, some of them will still be here. They will now be paying taxes. They will now have to compete with the rest of legal society. They will now have to have Driver's Liscenses and insurance on their cars or face jail time, rather than diving into a limbo zone where they never have to have consequences for their actions. They can continue to live in their own conclaves with their own culture and avoid assimilation with the rest of America. They can continue to provide cheap unskilled day labor for construction or other jobs, but they can now also do skilled labor (I've met a few Mexicans who could do plumbing better than the fat white guys you usually get, and cheaper too, but who were illegal and couldn't be bonded or insured and thus essentially couldn't work) and you create what this country is supposed to be about. Rule of law with open and free fair markets and competition. When you free up all the money that's tied up in this problem right now, and the government doesn't get their hands on it to kill all that with inefficiency, you have a strong economy, more small business owners (Because let's face it, alot of Hispanics DO start their own small businesses here) and with more small businesses, more jobs for everyone.
Time and time again, the American government has tried to ban or outlaw things. Chinese immigration, alchohol, "controlled substances", Abortion. They have ALWAYS failed. That's because the government is not in a position to do those types of things. The American government was not designed to restrict the american citizens in that way. The founding fathers would look at the monstrous, bloated, cancerous behemoth that claims it's legitimacy from the constitution many of them helped write, and would probably burn the constitution on the spot. Does that help us any? No, we need to find solutions for NOW, starting with focusing on what China and most of the rest of the world has been focusing on. Making government more ECO(nomic)FRIENDLY.
Edit: I never said Resident Aliens didn't pay taxes. Actually I said they DID pay taxes. However they would never pay MORE than a real citizen does. ILLEGAL ALIENS often do not pay taxes, at least not the ones I focused on AS THE PROBLEM. The MIGRANT ILLEGAL WORKERS who stand in front of Home Depots and work FOR CASH IN HAND at END OF DAY all the while filing for unemployment assistance, TANF, Food Stamps, and every other form of assistance they can get.
I want to reiterate, so people can clearly pull this one main thing out:
NOT ALL ILLEGALS ARE THE PROBLEM.
The immigration system in american DOES NOT PROVIDE A REASONABLE WAY FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO BE AMERICANS TO GET THERE. IT'S STUPID. If you WANT to be here, WANT to pay taxes, WANT to vote, WANT to work here, then you shouldn't have to wait months on end to get a GREEN card. You should have to wait for a background check to make sure you're not fleeing from arrest or conviction, then you should be NATURALIZED as a citizen, forfeit citizenship of other nations, and have all the rights and responsibilities of any other natural born american citizen.
The PROBLEM is the MIGRANT ILLEGAL WORKERS who do not EVER want to be American. They are not here to live the dream. They are here to milk the golden cow and go back home to Mexico. As I pointed out, it's a GENIUS idea, but it's a PARASITE on our backs. This is the Parasite that would be killed by LEGALIZING people like you (And your friends) Who WANT TO BE HERE BUT HAVE TO HIDE. The Migrant workers don't care if they get deported. They just COME RIGHT BACK.
You also pointed out the need for dead social security numbers to pay taxes to avoid suspicion and not get caught. That goes away when you kill the income tax. Lastly, if you're in America, the government shouldn't be paying for your health insurance. YOU SHOULD. If you don't want health INSURANCE then you can wait until you get hurt or sick and pay for health CARE. The only reason why it's reasonable to require you to have AUTO insurance is LIABILITY in case you hurt someone ELSE. There's no LAW requiring you to have comprehensive on your own car, why do you need to have Health insurance on yourserlf?
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