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  1. 11-29-2009, 10:34 PM #1
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    so heres the deal, i bought this b16, about 2 months ago blew a head gasket, he removed the head, took it to the machine shop got it all done up blahblahblah



    well the dude reused the OEM headbolts which once they are tq'd you are supposed to replace them. about 2 weeks later it started smoking again, i have some Head Studs, would it be safe to just pull the head, put a new gasket down, and use the studs, or would it have been possible that the head could have warped again?

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    depends if it got hot enough, just have it checked or lay a straight edge on it and see.....
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    You said it started smoking again. What color is the smoke?


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    exactly^....white,grey,black??
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcs View Post
    exactly^....white,blue,black??
    Grey... LOL.
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    did it run hot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo View Post
    Grey... LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
    You said it started smoking again. What color is the smoke?
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    exactly^....white,blue,black??
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    did it run hot?
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    general rule of thumb:
    white smoke = head gasket issue
    black smoke = piston ring/ valve issue
    grey smoke = head gasket and piston ring
    blue? = some radioactive shit is going on get the **** out of there

    i am assuming that if the head was brought to a machine shop, then they would have inspected the valve and check for warping issues...so those are pretty much eliminated unless you went to like tim bob shop or something....also sometimes the smoke could just be coming from the muffler itself with shit inside it.....take the muff off and run a can of carb through it to see if it still smokes
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmastertech View Post
    You said it started smoking again. What color is the smoke?
    Quote Originally Posted by jcs View Post
    exactly^....white,blue,black??
    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo View Post
    Grey... LOL.
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    x2
    Quote Originally Posted by k3tsurui View Post
    general rule of thumb:
    white smoke = head gasket issue
    black smoke = piston ring/ valve issue
    grey smoke = head gasket and piston ring
    blue? = some radioactive shit is going on get the **** out of there

    i am assuming that if the head was brought to a machine shop, then they would have inspected the valve and check for warping issues...so those are pretty much eliminated unless you went to like tim bob shop or something....also sometimes the smoke could just be coming from the muffler itself with shit inside it.....take the muff off and run a can of carb through it to see if it still smokes
    Quote Originally Posted by 96hatchCX View Post
    so heres the deal, i bought this b16, about 2 months ago blew a head gasket, he removed the head, took it to the machine shop got it all done up blahblahblah



    well the dude reused the OEM headbolts which once they are tq'd you are supposed to replace them. about 2 weeks later it started smoking again, i have some Head Studs, would it be safe to just pull the head, put a new gasket down, and use the studs, or would it have been possible that the head could have warped again?
    LOL, none of you answered his question. He just wants to know if he needs to have the head re surfaced again before it goes back on. No one here can know that without seeing it.
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  11. 11-30-2009, 10:17 AM #11
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    lol u must need that big font to see.

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    Resurface the head, buy a new OEM honda headgskt, and new OEM head bolts. ANd you should be ok. just did mine recently, becuase my exhaust smoking white, and engine overheating. And car runs fine now.

    You gotta understand, reusing old head bolt is taking a risk (bcuz they go under alot of heat, and material overtime becomes weakened.) But if you do decide to use ur old bolts, make sure you mark them (puting them back in its original order and slot), and torque them correctly.
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  13. 11-30-2009, 01:19 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot View Post
    lol u must need that big font to see.
    more then you know....
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    Quote Originally Posted by k3tsurui View Post
    general rule of thumb:
    white smoke = head gasket issue
    black smoke = piston ring/ valve issue
    grey smoke = head gasket and piston ring
    blue? = some radioactive shit is going on get the **** out of there
    You must be new to this or something. LOL. Blue would be an oil issue also, genius.
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    white smoke =Coolant
    White smoke with a bluish tint= Oil
    Grey smoke=Exhaust fumes
    Black smoke=Fuel

    I would NEVER reuse a OEM headBOLT, Headstuds are $100 and reusable, id go with some ARPs just to be safe
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  16. 11-30-2009, 08:54 PM #16
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    I was being sarcastic, but thanks for the insight

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    You must be new to this or something. LOL. Blue would be an oil issue also, genius.
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