generally what's that cost???
took it in last summer to get it recharged was told it was a leak... it was basically fall so i didn't worry about it...
but i've been absolutely dieing this summer...
it's a jeep grand cherokee...
generally what's that cost???
took it in last summer to get it recharged was told it was a leak... it was basically fall so i didn't worry about it...
but i've been absolutely dieing this summer...
it's a jeep grand cherokee...
depends on where the leak if it just a seal or if its an actual piece. if its just a seal in a easy to get spot should cost more than a few bux in labor to fix. if its something like the evaporator u know price goes up. whatever happens your going to need a minimum of a charge $75.
just a hard call without knowing where the leak is.
yeah i didn't think i could get a quote.. but was wondering if it was gonna be like 1-2-3-4 hundred bucks... money is a bit tight these days.. ya know? lol..
thanks though!!!
I had a 93 grand that lost its Charge, I added a can of sealer/oil and then a couple cans of freon.
shit was ice cold till i sold it 3 months later.
if its just an O-ring that stuff might work miracles for ya.
oh and it cost me like.... >30 bucks for the cans and a charge line?
Mine really dosn't leave the garage. People across the street think it is a tool bench.
do u know if its coming from a major ac component or 1 of the lines.Originally Posted by Killer
thats like put in radiator sealer or something. only times good if u dont want to keep the car. an need a quick fix. other than that replace the 50 cent thats leaking. an have the system serviced properly.Originally Posted by EP3sAreFun
there is a dye that is made to put into the ac system. use a black light with it and in the dark. once you have put the dye in, use the black light for it to show up with the ac running and start looking for the leak.
edit, do it at night in your driveway or something. with no lights you won't see the leak with the black light.
sorta but no.Originally Posted by Barefoot
This stuff is a stop leak/oil for the system. Won't harm the system like the radiator stuff could.
Mine really dosn't leave the garage. People across the street think it is a tool bench.
i know what it is. ive been working on ac for a long time. im saying for me personally if my name is on the work im not going to use it. i would rather replace the bad seal know its replaced and working fine. then have to risk over charge the system or anything else. thats just me.Originally Posted by EP3sAreFun
i want it fixed.. i'm not gonna fix it myself since i don't know how.. and don't want to even try...
but i gotta watch the funds...
so take it somewhere and get a quoteOriginally Posted by Killer
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Mine really dosn't leave the garage. People across the street think it is a tool bench.
That's the rub with A/C diagnosis, it usually costs more time to just find the leak, rather than actually repairing it. As stated before, have the system injected with dye and go from there.
Who knows?
As already stated, have your a/c system recharged and dye injected. This should have your a/c back online. Then take it back to the shop within a month or so and they will use a special light/glasses that allows the dye to easily be seen and they can then quote you on the repair depending on whats leaking. Ive seen it be anything from schrader valves on the ports to o-rings on the expansion valve. The quote will depend entirely on whats leaking. If the evaporator has to come out.. it will be expensive. If its just an o-ring leaking on a line it may only be a few hundred bucks.
I do TONS of a/c work at a dealership. This is how I handle every a/c leak that comes in. To properly do a/c repair, you need a lot of specialty equipment.. aka not a home repair.
PM me if you want to work out some kinda trade, we are more than willing to work out a deal.
BMW 750iL
somebody who understands. u just dont know how many a/c repairs i see at the beginning of summer from people who want to charge there system. they get the autozone charge kit and just pump away. then over fill big time break something. then bitch at me thinking im ripping them off because they have to buy a new this or that.Originally Posted by green91
With the autozone kits you have no way to actually measure the amount of freon in the system and how much you are adding. r134a systems are very particular about the amount in them to work most efficiently. Its not even as simple as reading a sight glass on a system with a leak.. you get air in the system etc. To properly fill a system you need to:
#Evacuate and store any refrigerant left in the system
#Vacuum system for atleast 15 mins, then i usually let sit for 10+ mins to watch if the system loses vaccuum (aka leak)
#Inject dye + oil
#recharge system with proper amount of freon
If your system has been open for a while too due to a leak you will probably want to replace your dryer since its most likely saturated with moisture.
Reps when i canOriginally Posted by Barefoot
them autozone kits are what really puts food on the table during the summer for me. well and the head gasket coolant leak shit.Originally Posted by green91
I really dont know that much about Car A/C's, but just reading this thread has brought me some insight on troubleshooting techniques. Didnt know this stuff..straight.
A/C systems are not complicated but you can't really fix anything yourself like green91 said. If you take it somewhere Killer, let us know what they say.
O and don't put stop leak in anything, A/C or not.
lol that shit is like taking a a gatling gun to a fist fight. somethings about to get fucked up.Originally Posted by 81911SC
The older systems aren't. The newer stuff works off more than just a compressor cycling switch.Originally Posted by 81911SC
Exactly. Terrible shit.Originally Posted by Barefoot
That doesn't make them much harder. Just a few more things to deal with.Originally Posted by Init2winit
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thank you!Originally Posted by green91
this is an easy and probably the simplest way to find out where the leak is coming. it will show up directly where the leak is coming from so you know exactly where the leak is at and probably what is needed to have it replaced.
it would be a lot better than taking it someplace and having them tell you some shit that isn't true. i mean, money is getting tight for everyone, so everyone is trying to make a buck when they can. and labor is what is gonna kill your wallet, not the part.
IMHO, i would locate the leak, then take it to the shop. just to eliminate any bullshit of other problems or them trying to say more is wrong then what there really is.
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I suggested the lube/seal can and recharge cause the OP doesn't wanna get his hands dirty and doesn't wanna go pay someone. So that's pretty much his only option.Originally Posted by 81911SC
Mine really dosn't leave the garage. People across the street think it is a tool bench.
Until it stops up everything else. Sure that stuff will stop a small leak but think about where the rest of it goes. It could be anywhere and clog anything up.Originally Posted by EP3sAreFun
worked great for 6 monthsOriginally Posted by 81911SC
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Mine really dosn't leave the garage. People across the street think it is a tool bench.
I believe you, shoot I agree it will (for a bit). Do you still have the car?Originally Posted by EP3sAreFun
New Fords come with dye already in place only like a 1/4 oz. but you really don't even need the glasses, all you need is a blacklight but it would do much good finding it yourself unless it's just a hose or something.
nah but the guy called me a few weeks ago to tell me second gear went *shrug* said he had no other problems.Originally Posted by 81911SC
Been like a year since i sold it.... and 6 months before i sold it i did the AC refresh.
So 1.5 years and still running good. But i also knew how much to add and was careful not to overcharge the system.
Mine really dosn't leave the garage. People across the street think it is a tool bench.
if the system is leaking, when the dye is added, it will show up under the black light where ever its at. so wether it be a hose or a leak in the line, you will know where its at and good reference on where to start.Originally Posted by 81911SC
Umm, duh. I'm talking about actually fixing something. Killa, won't be throwing a evap core on.Originally Posted by Master Shake
if he knows where to start, over having no clue, it will give him a better estimate of what would be needed for the fix. and probably what to expect of the costs of having it fixed.Originally Posted by 81911SC
guy i live with is a mechanic and has been for about 20 years, the shop he works at, they automatically install the dye into the system just for later references. not sure if all shops do this or not.
has there been any previous work done on the AC or is this the first?
at $75 (what i charge dont know about other places) a recharge whats not to economical at all. cheaper to fix the issue then only charge the system once. vs keep diding it once every few weeks or so.Originally Posted by Sammich
we do it included in our ac service package. along with a mechanical sniff.Originally Posted by Master Shake
word. i'm not sure if ALL shops do it, but i know some do.Originally Posted by Barefoot
Killa, let us know what is going on and if it has been fixed or not.
not places i worked in the past charge extra to do it.Originally Posted by Master Shake
it would seem to be a better idea to do it while recharging just to make the customer happy and keep them coming back for any other problems with their vehicle.Originally Posted by Barefoot