Quote Originally Posted by D16Civic
your probably looking at around 175ish hp to the wheels with the b18c5 and if you do turbo it just make sure you get it tuned properly, ive heard these motors cant handle mistakes very well.

As for which car to get, its kinda just what you think looks better, but if your wanting to get whichever one will be the faster of the 2, id say to go w/ the civic cuz they weigh less than integras.

good luck on whatever you decide to do
The civic should be cheaper too start with too, but i'd only get an EG or later hatch. It's also better to keep your options open, you may be looking for a DC2 but then come across a great deal on a hatch....both can be as equally clean if done right. The engine will probably be the greatest cost, just keep your eyes open and keep browsing all the forums....

The B18C5 is a stronger engine, internals are better, etc...but you gonna have to pay more for it.

Anyone remember Mark with the blue hatch up in the mtns.? B18C (JDM ITR), stripped w/ full rollcage, polished racing harts, insane suspension..spoiler & splitter just like mine...he built that entire car with $10k, actually he spent $12k because he got screwed on an oem ITR conversion online but he only had $10k into it and i would bet that is one of the top 5 fastest/best handling street cars in those mountains.

Oh yeah, when looking for the engine you'll realize 50% of the B18C5's are scams...i busted several people on eBay and classified ads "selling" them. DO NOT buy anything you can't see unless it's from a VERY reputable distributor or say seller on Honda-tech, alway's ALWAY's check for references with wherever you go or YOU WILL get screwed, i can promise you.

If you're confused about the B18C...in japan the B18C is both the SIR-G (gs-r)and ITR [while here you have the B18C1 & B18C5], the only way you can tell the differance is by the LSD stamp on the transmission and P73 (itr) or P72 (gs-r) stamped on various engine parts. The valve cover will be red on the ITR too. You will find people trying to sell B18C's as type-r's when it's really just the sir-g. The JDM ITR transmission is practically worth its weight in gold....the tightest gears & highest final drive of any b-series made...but not good for turbo...you need the taller gears for the turbo to spool and hold the boost. I think the LS transmission, with maybe minor gear changes, is the best tranny for turbo...it's also the cheapest to get.

I probably lost you at "if you're confused" lol