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    no need to talk to me unless he wants it installed, you guys covered everything. good points.

    B18C5=ITR USDM motor
    All TYPE R engines come with a Limited SLip transmission, a closer Geared Tranny, More aggressive Camshafts, better flwoing intake manifold, higher compression pistons, and a better header. those are the main differences between a B18C1 and a B18C5

    Basically, depends on your budget. if you have 8-10K tp spend, K series.
    if you have $6000 to spend, do an ITR swap
    If you have $5000 to spend, GSR swap
    you get the point. what is your budget that would help us out alot more
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    Well im selling my car for 12500 and thinking of buying an integra, probly without a motor, so i will not have to spend TOO much on just a car. but I only have the issue of just only haveing a performance car, when I also do the show stuff to, so a nice paint job, rims, the engine, and the coilovers. So if you could help me out now i would appreciate it.

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    This is what you do you buy a shelled EK like mine, Drop about 4-5k into a GSR Swap after all that if you sell your car for 12,500 you still will have about 6k to play with as far as paint performance and other showstoppers are concerned. Just my Plus hatches just look so damn sexy.

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    sorry but i dont really look good in a civic. haha.

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    Fuck having yourself look good, its the car that matters. Hell I am short and stubly but I get hella compliments on my car even though it is Purple and I sometimes wear my pinks shirts

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    haha yeah, ill look into it, i do like those cars, maybe ill just 5% the windows so no one can see me hahahaha. kidding....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancer_Jordan
    haha yeah, ill look into it, i do like those cars, maybe ill just 5% the windows so no one can see me hahahaha. kidding....
    yummm...$12k cash to spent on building an integra. I wish I had more free time to help you find a car and parts, i'm always up for a good challenge. Honda-tech.com is a good source for parts, just make sure the seller is reputable, ask for references, etc.

    First of all, each step you take is probably going to cost about 25-50% more than you originally expected.

    Look for a clean titled '94-95 RS/LS. That will probably be your cheapest option (base cost & insurance) and if you want the newer frontend the '97-'01 bumper and headlights will bolt right up w/o a problem. Expect to pay $3-5k, depending on the mileage and condition. You could always look for a stolen recovery from a auction for normally much less.

    I'd start with getting it rolling, an ITR 5 lug conversion is something you can do for $400-800 or so which will give you alot more options on "nicer" wheels, better suspension setup, and enable you to sell the original brakes to a civic owner. Tons of suspension is available for either way you go....I'm a big fan of Tein but by browsing the forums you can just find a great deal on something out there. I'd set aside $1k for a basic coil-over dampener setup and installation, whatever the brand may be. Of course you can spend upwards of $1k on each corner. If you wanted to keep the original suspension I can get you a full ground control coil-over dampener setup (not the sleeve) for about $800, which is normally over $2,000 then add another $500-1000 for a decent brake upgrade. I'd say a minimum $2k for wheels, brakes, and suspension...if you look really hard.

    Engine...
    K20a2 from the Civic SI will be alot cheaper than the K20a3 from the RSX but with either one you'll need a mounting kit and several other things that aren't already on the DC2 body you buy. It will probably be $4-5k+ for the swap (and transmission & parts) then add in $1k for labor and unexpected expenses. I've seen clean (not stolen) A3's with tranny sell for under $4k several times.

    I like the B-series because one day (!!!) the k-series will eventually take over the market and the price of b-series parts and upgrades will drop. Unless you're going turbo i'd probably refrain from the [GS-R] B18C1. For the cost of GS-R or ITR swap you could build a great LS/VTEC or B20/vtec turbo. You'll have alot more expenses down the road with a turbo setup though.

    With a mid-grade suspension and decent engine setup you've practically spent your budget but could easily spend double. A full repaint done correctly will cost about $3k...it can be done under $2k but you get what you pay for. Fix up the interior, maybe a rollcage, etc...it all depends on what the main purpose of the car is...show, go, or a little of both.

    I spent your budget on just my car, '01 GS-R with 37k miles then put in a brand new B18C5 rolling on Tein Flex...let's not add my stuff up $$$
    Last edited by speedminded; 09-15-2005 at 04:32 PM.

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