we had a 00 SI that was turbo and he passed emissions no problem
we had a 00 SI that was turbo and he passed emissions no problem
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Props to vteckidd for taking his time to explain all of that... I'm tired of being the only one doing so.
i wanna boost my d16y8 i'll call you up mike
cool , just let me know
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Dude once again you've lost track of the thread. Its peiced together! Duh!!! I don't have a list. I would span a year or so. You know. I can ask him when I visit in 2 weeks if he has any documentation. If that would make you feel better. By the way. Where is your entry for Battle of the Shops???? Hmmmm? Bring a couple of D-series!
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ok so if his kit is done, call him and ask himOriginally Posted by djmaddmartin
what turbo
what injectors
what manifold
what engine mandagement
waht clutch and flywheel
what inercooler
what psi
and what motor
surely if you guys are friends you can call and get an answer, i mean really how hard is that?
where is my entry for battle of the shops, oh dont worry, i will win the all motor class.
and ill have a few 400-500whp turbo hondas there.
if you would like to list resumes, ill stack mine against yours:
191whp OEM Build GSR -my old motor
190whp OEM build GSR-Seans motor i built
173whp OEM stock block B16-99Sis motor
400whp LSVTEC -Spoolins car we tuned
300whp B16-Seths car we tuned
i should have a turbo RSX this weekend right at 400whp
If i have enough time ill have my new 2.0l motor and this niffty all motor K series i have im building now. ever heard of ITBs on a K series ?
Your getting all defensive man, simply answer the questions i asked, its really simple. your arguing skills suck. provide PROOF of this $1500 300whp turbo kit
or
proof of your friends $4300 300whp turbo kit and what it came with and whether that included a swap.
also tell me how you can get 84mm ITR pistons
still waiting.........................
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You know I just relized look back the error in the previous post. My bad. I was trying to say aftermarket for a ITR (ITR piston compression). MY slip. Feel better. I look forward to the results of Battle of the Shops. Good Luck.
we'll see what happens.
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lol this is funny
its is hilarious
and im STILL WAITING......................................
Jon00 when i get this info on this turbo kit for $1500 that makes 300whp you wanna go into business together, we could be rich bitch
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^^^Count me in. I'll take care of the Middle Georgia market. I'll change the business name to Earl's Used Cars and dirt cheap turbo kits that make 300whp. That has a nice ring to it.
You know, you guys are pretty funny. Just like that whining you did on the Battle of the Shops thread. LOLOL hahahahaha. Ahhhh..... I needed that.
Last edited by djmaddmartin; 09-24-2005 at 10:17 PM.
no one did any whining fuck face. Actually a lot of people feel the same way i do. hell, i know Bee and talk to him every day. we share similar thoughts on the matter. so why dont you shut the fuck up.
Stop swinging on everyones elses nuts, why dont you post up WITH PROOF what YOU have built since you think you know so much.
I have personally run 13.8 in my old GSR crx, made 191whp.
I built another kids motor that made 185whp.
Thats TWO motor i have done. list me ONE that you have built and one that you can post dynos of.
Show me your resume, or is it only as long as that riced out green integra with altezzas that you have?
AHHHHH HAHAHAHA, i needed that. your a retard.
EDIT: Dave HIckman akaa DH RACING, is the biggest BULLSHIT on the net since ENDYN. you prov you dont know shit, cause DH racing is a huge scam artist
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You'll get to see my car. Soon. It will not disappoint.
As for your comments, uh what ever dude. I'm not going to resort to name calling and such things. I'm absolutely fine with what ever you have to say or call me. It just shows me your level of maturity when facing a difference of opinion. Whether I'm wrong or right or you feel you're in the right doesn't condone such behavior. Its very disappointing. Up until this past week I had mostly heard good things about you and your shop (except its distance from Atlanta). There were some people who thought you were a jerk and conducted business in a poor manner but I witheld judgement. I pushed you to see what type of person you were and I saw all I needed to see. This will be my last post on this thread. Good luck with your business and projects. DMM
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And peters shop isnt a DISTANCE FROM ATLANTA? what fucking world do you live in. you didnt push me, i pushed YOU, and you have NO Answers for me cause you have no idea what you are talking about. You have done nothign but run your mouth about shit you dont even understand. i gave you a chance to prove me wrong , and all you did was try to make it into how im going to lose at battle of the shops.
Once again ricer boy, let me state what YOU said in this thread. you said you could build a 300whp TURBO kit for $1500. then you offered NO proof. You CANT EVEN TELL ME WHAT TURBO WOULD MAKE 300whp. its cause YOU DONT KNOW. then you say your friend has some 300whp car, but yet you cant even call him and get details on his setup. is it maybe because it doesnt exist? or because its just you running your mouth again
People dont like me, so waht, i know that. i really dont care. the people that do know me and actually TALK to me know that im a good guy and i hook people up. I have more friends than enemies. Werent you the one i DROVE to the middle of atlanta to sell you a set of GSR camshafts for $60? i remember i was asking $80, and lowered the price to $60 cause you said something about finding them for $60 on ebay or some shit. i didnt care, didnt i give you a CHOICE between 3 different sets of camshafts as well....
I think someone is just mad that i called them out and they cant respond with anything if substance to make there argument more than "air".
I remember who you are, your the one that tried to organize the street races when i used to go, your the one my friend almost knocked out cause you were telling him where to "park" and we told you we would park wherever we wanted to. your the one that got all butt hurt cause we wouldnt listen to you cause you and your buddy wanted us to obey and do what the "crossing" guard told us. we told you to shut up and thats when my friend almost knocked you out and you backed down and drove off. remember that?
at that time you drove a Green Integra with altezzas and big wheels. so dont act like your billy bad ass with all these fast cars that you have built. just cause your "building" one now doesnt mean you get my respect. you would have gotten my respect if you could have answered the questions i asked you instead of backpeddaling.
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So since your the masters of N/A. Check this out.
http://www.dh-racing.com/videos/Davenos.wmv
http://www.dh-racing.com/videos/daver1.wmv
Swweeeeettt
1st. I never said I built fast cars.
2nd. I'm telling you what my friend told me he had paid in total (after about a yr of finding parts) for his integra to be turboed. I don't have his reciepts. Don't believe me fine. I don't care.
3rd. Yeah I used to street race but never ever come close to being knocked out. I don't do that stupid shit anymore. If you do your a dumb ass.
4th. I am building my car, for myself, not to prove any point to your ass or anyone else. I've saved up for the good stuff and I'm going to enjoy my car for no one else, for no ones respect (espcially yours) and, for no one's standards.
5th. I live in dacula so you do the math on distance
6th. Your one hostile person. You need to learn to control your temper. Once again you've proved your level of maturity. End of Discussion
LOL... Man this thread has gotten a little out of hand...
Once again I never said the kit was $1500. I said he did a swap and turbo kit for $4300. Thats what he told me. And it was you that was claiming to get a good turbo kit off of ebay for $1500-not me. Here are just a couple of kits I found from 1200-1700. Which are not run down kits but brand new. I was you that told me you could find d-series kits on ebay for $1500. Yep Yep.
examples of b series kits:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-Ser...02368532QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VECCO...02135526QQrdZ1
Go on wid your bad self! Its time to end this thread. Its just got out of hand (thks mp50) I heard what you gotta say and vice versa. We disagree and thats it. I got mad respect for some of your builds but I'm not sure about you. Your hostile, rude and can't let anyone believe different than your self. You know a lot but can't accept that there may be other ways of acheiving the same goals. Its too bad. Peace Out
Really, let me show you AGAIN what YOU said since you have reading comprehension problems.
I bolded it for you since you have problems remembering what you yourself said. there it is ladies and gentlemen, he said he could BUILD a 300whp GSR turbo kit for $1500. he said $4000-4500 OUT THE DOOR MAKING 300whp. and that included a SWAP, TURBO KIT, CLUTCH, FLYHWEEL. yet you cant even tell me what your turbo kit consists of, which is cool cause you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. as far as your "boy" goes, still, all i hear from you isOriginally Posted by djmaddmartin
List your part break down for the D series build. I checked out the kit on ebay and its missing a bunch of stuff. Show me the exact breakdown of your d-series out the door. Just curious. May make you some business too. Sounds like a killer deal. I can get a gsr full swap for $1500 by the way -USDM. $1500 for a turbo kit. $500 for clutch/flywheel. $4000-4500 out the door making 300+hp. My boy in Florida payed $4300 out the door for his. I of course am going to spend way more than that. But I'm aiming for a bit more power potential.. call your friend and post what he has and what he paid. post a dyno too.
once again, go read what i said. you said it would cost:Thats what he told me. And it was you that was claiming to get a good turbo kit off of ebay for $1500-not me.
Once again i bolded it. what i told you was taht you can find GREDDY intercooler less turbo kits on Ebay for under $1500. i was merely refuting your $3000-5000 bill for a boosted D series. i was also telling you that we do full turbokits INCLUDING install for $3500. no one charges $1500-2500 to install a turbo kit.
this proves how much of an idiot you are. I NEVER said i could find turbo kits for $1500 on EBAY. YOU said that it was $3000-5000 for a D series turbo kit and all its accesories, i was saying that you could find Greddy SOHC complete kits on HT and EBAY for under $1500. but i never reccomended it. then you went off on some idiotic tangent about how you could build an NA motor and be faster cause your B series EF beat a turbo D series. Then you made a proposterous claim that a 300whp B series kit costs $1500, and thats where i called you out.Here are just a couple of kits I found from 1200-1700. Which are not run down kits but brand new. I was you that told me you could find d-series kits on ebay for $1500. Yep Yep.
examples of b series kits:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/B-Ser...02368532QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VECCO...02135526QQrdZ1
BTW:
those turbo kits you posted, missing a BOV, Engine Management, Intercooler piping, injectors, oil lines, etc. Its missing $1000 worth of stuff, then add in labor, OH SHIT we are at $3500 which is what i QUOTED everyone, AMAZING. That is not a complete turbo kit, and even if you bought that kit, and stuck it on your b series, it wont make over 250whp if you are lucky cause its an FMU setup. and if you want to trust EBAY go for it, my customers have higher standards and personally my turbo kits are better and more complete. for $2500 i include a Walbro Fuel pump, Uberdata, Conversion harness if you need it, Turbonetics Wastegate, Greddy or HKS BOV AND FLANGE, Front mouont intercooler and piping , Log manifold, Downpipe, 450cc injectors, wow, my kit is way more complete.
ill end this thread when you stop posting BULLSHIT. just admit that your wrong, you cant build a turbo kit for $1500 that makes 300whp. i stil have yet to see any proof.
im not hostile, and im not rude. if you remember, you asked me to breakdown my D series turbo kit, which i did. i then politely asked you to breakd down your $1500 B series turbo kit. and you never did, and still havent. thats when you got hostile. your the one that started whining like a girl and then tried to make this about Battle of the Shops. You know what, i know peter and bee way more than you, and i know ill lose to them. NA vs BOOST, doesnt take a rocket scientest to see that. whats your point? you think im gonna feel bad when i lose, or when peter wins, fuck no. I tell you what, you bring your shit out and line up against me. you want to ride peters coattails, thats fine, im now calling you out. bring one of YOUR built cars out or your buddies 300whp GSR and line up against me. we can do it at the track or on the street , but you better bring some money.
go away, leave this topic, and leave this to people that know what they are talking about, which is everyone else in this thrread except you.
STILL WAITING..............
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lol ^^^^^
What ever dude. We disagree and thats all.
diary of a man that lost an argument cause he cant show any proof.
thanks, try better next time
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dairy? no mike's lactose intollerant.
I'm sure me scotty and chris(green91) will give any swapped n/a b series a run =0) the only reason i haven't been able to get a good track time is cuz of my big ass wheels and full body, but even with that I hit 14.7. I've only spent 1600 without tuning. I've looked at a turbo'd ls with a t3t4 and compared to my y8 with a t3, both with 10 psi, we're almost at the same power, just the ls makes a few more on the torque side. D series turbo is a better bang for the buck. Its even better to pop open the hood after a good race to see the face of the person you beat or kept up with. I admit the b series has more room to work with though. A gsr with bolt on's will not come close to a boosted d... Actually, I took out 3 integras and a prelude all at once saturday night, and I gave the srt a good run...
Wow. You spent only $1600. Was that for just the kit or the kit and install?
The kit(t3 60 trim with uberdata). I installed it.
twat ever. I lost nothing except respect for you.
i never wanted your respect, i dont need it.
LOL keep posting
you lose, i win
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You won nothing. Your childish responses just make me laugh even harder!
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\u aint going to winYou won nothing. Your childish responses just make me laugh even harder!
Djmaddmartin:
No proof of 300whp turbo kit for $1500
No Proof of friends car that makes 300whp with a $1500 turbo kit
Couldnt even tell me what a 300whp B series turbo kit consists of
Djmaddmartin=no credibility
Vteckidd:
Posted Turbo Kit prices and whp gains
Has Dyno graphs and Cars to prove his case
93H22ACX backed me up
Vteckidd =Winner
thanks, try harder next time
Or
Line one of you BUILT cars against one of mine. we can run at commerce next weekend or on the street. Enter one of your cars in BOTS.
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Oh I asked the source and was backed up. It could be done. Don't you recall that peter's civic was running 400hp on stock internals for year before he built the motor. Hmmm, Yeahhhh. I remember it running strong at the track and never even letting out one poof of smoke. And he was running a USDM b18c. And he ran it almost every weekend. So 300hp on a stock motor is possible??? Yeah??? But none the less. I disagree with you that it can't be done. I will agree with you on that it can't be done everyday or at the drop of a hat. Gotta find cherry deals here and there over time to pull it off. So lets just let this thread lay. We disagree.
On a side note. I gotta give you props on finding your friends car. I had my civic stolen and it stung like hell. I'll make sure to let eveyone I know about this tire shop.
1) i never said you couldnt make 300whp on stock sleeves. we have done it multiple times.
2) dont bring peter into this
3) You still lack proof.
go back and READ waht YOU said . you said you could
im saying, for $1500 YOU CANNOT MAKE 300whp on a b series with a turbo kit. if you think you can, tell me what you will do and show me proof."get a GSR swap for $1500, a turbo kit for $1500, clutch /flywheel $500, out the door making 300whp."
EVEN WITH ALL THE BARGAIN HUNTING IN THE WORLD, at the end of the day, the intercooler and turbo, injectors, engine management system and BOV will run you $1500, no counting the downpipe, wastegate, and the manifold.
thats what im saying. you keep trying to shift the argument to something that has NOTHING to do with what YOU CLAIMED.
Go re read what Bee said. you cannot do it for $1500. and you cant do it reliably.
you said you could do a 300whp turbo kit for $1500, not just a plain jane turbo kit. there is a difference. I only listed the Greddy kits and EBAy kits becuase you were trying to say it cost $5000 to do a turbo kit on a D series. i was saying thats not true.
Yes we do believe in cheap power, if you shop around our turbo kits are the CHEAPEST around and they come INSTALLED with brand name parts and dyno graphs. you will not beat our price PERIOD on a turbo kit.
its obvious you just cant follow whats going on so im not going to point it out anymore. im done explaining myself.
Show me proof, or i call BULLSHIT.
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Ok, so I have watched this enough. I have to comment.
First, WE NEVER said you could not make 300whp on a stock GSR. We have done it on more than one car. We said you could not make 300whp on a GSR for $1500. YOU said that. We just want to know how he did that so we can maybe change the way we do our turbo kits. That is all we have asked for since the very start. LIST WHAT HE HAS THAT HE ONLY PAID $1500 for, then I will be willing to let him come to the dyno and prove that it makes over 300whp. I don't give a shit if it feels fast, I want to see it make the #'s. If it does then the dyno is free, if not then YOU pay for the dyno. What do you say?
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I said I could get a turbo kit for $1500 on ebay. I posted up several links after looking for the $1200 d series kits that vteckidd had eluded to. Posted by vtec kidd:But as for my friend I don't know. He told me he paid $1500 for a USDM b18c out of a t boned integra with 60k on the clock. The only other figure he told me was he paid $4300 for the swap and kit. If he's lying I couldn't tell ya. Thats what he told me. Everyone is jumpin my ass about this. Have you never heard of a package put together at a killer price or on the cheap???YOu can buy intercooler-less kits from Greddy for $1200 all day long on Ebay and from Nopi.
yeah i got a del sol that has a jdm d15b, and i'm about to put a d16y8 head and im on it to see what it will do, i like the consept of out running a b series with a d-series, maybe not the built ones, but some of them for sure, anybody know anything on how much it will help, or anyone ahve any sohc setups, let me know, i'd love to hear about them.
just get a b-series and a greddy turbo kit, end of fucking story, 220- 240 hp is way better, and you have not even touched the motor yet, DUH!!! i have had both, but a jdn b16, 2nd gen is music to my ears. i will never own a d again, unless it is a work car to keep miles off my si!!!
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