Results 1 to 28 of 28

Thread: I hav an overheating problem which cant be explained, someone help please.

  1. #1
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default I hav an overheating problem which cant be explained, someone help please.

    I have an all stock b18B in a 1990 integra, and it seems to be wanting to run extremely hot but i cannot seem to find the reason why.

    I already checked water/coolant, the radiator, the block and head coolant passages, theres no coolant leaks anywhere and the water pump is brand new and functioning well. I dont know what else there can be. The engine even wants to run so hot that i removed the thermostat completely just to keep the thing running in a reasonable temperature zone.

    The thing that is with it is that the cylinder COMBUSTION temperatures are getting too high, and as a result it makes the water temp go up high too. I was thinking that it could be my catalytic converter, only because when i was first attempting to make the car run, i ran it so rich that there was raw fuel coming out the exhaust pipe... If i get a test pipe, can this be the solution?


    Someone help with this. Theres nothing else to check...


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  2. #2
    Just another Civic Slomaro Z28's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Woodstock
    Age
    40
    Posts
    1,881
    Rep Power
    22

    Default

    Head Gasket? Air in the Coolant system?
    2007 Civic FA1 and 2005 Yukon XL Denali

  3. #3
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    everything in the cooling system has been checked and re-checked, and nothing has failed. Except for the fact that there is no thermo. but that is on purpose.


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  4. #4
    Just another Civic Slomaro Z28's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Woodstock
    Age
    40
    Posts
    1,881
    Rep Power
    22

    Default

    I was just throwin some ideas around, what about that head gasket? Run a compression test on it.
    2007 Civic FA1 and 2005 Yukon XL Denali

  5. #5
    Gods Chariot Vteckidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Atlanta Centennial Park
    Age
    44
    Posts
    33,102
    Rep Power
    71

    Default

    didnt you just rebuild this motor?

    You can do the easy thing and replace the coolant temp sensor. but i doubt thats the problem.

    if its running so hot, that you have to pull the thermostat out, then you got major problems, and its NOT the catalytic convertor.

    You got a blown headgasket, or your fan isnt coming on
    Enterprise Data Resources- Ecommerce Project Manager
    -www.usedbarcode.net

  6. #6
    Gods Chariot Vteckidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Atlanta Centennial Park
    Age
    44
    Posts
    33,102
    Rep Power
    71

    Default

    FYI your cylinder temps arent going to go through the roof with a bad cat, especially on a LS motor so you can rule that out.
    Enterprise Data Resources- Ecommerce Project Manager
    -www.usedbarcode.net

  7. #7
    Jay G. 1439/2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Location, Location...
    Posts
    6,375
    Rep Power
    30

    Default

    Bad bearing on the water pump? Though it may not leak, they can get worn out and not push as hard.

  8. #8
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    Lol, nope i just bought another motor instead

    My compression is perfect, and the head gasket is there 100% also, and the fan is coming on because i have it on a separate user-controlled switch.


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  9. #9
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    Bad bearing on the water pump? Though it may not leak, they can get worn out and not push as hard.
    Lol, this is a brand new piece as well. I checked it and made sure it was okay before putting it on too


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  10. #10
    Gods Chariot Vteckidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Atlanta Centennial Park
    Age
    44
    Posts
    33,102
    Rep Power
    71

    Default

    then replace the engine coolant temp sensor.

    Is it ACTUALLY getting hot? or is the guage just saying its hot?

    is the overflow bubbling over?
    Enterprise Data Resources- Ecommerce Project Manager
    -www.usedbarcode.net

  11. #11
    Turbo-Wired
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    East Cobb
    Age
    39
    Posts
    825
    Rep Power
    18

    Default

    Have you burped the coolant system to ensure that there's no air in the system and that coolant is flowing properly?

    Have you checked to make sure the temperature sensor is working properly and wired correctly?

    I suppose there's also the possibility of an issue with your radiator too. I can't imagine how/why, but it's the only thing we haven't talked about.

  12. #12
    Gods Chariot Vteckidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Atlanta Centennial Park
    Age
    44
    Posts
    33,102
    Rep Power
    71

    Default

    usually if its a radiator cap itll steam, if its the original radiator cap, id replace it just to rule it out.
    Enterprise Data Resources- Ecommerce Project Manager
    -www.usedbarcode.net

  13. #13
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    cap has been replaced, no steam from it.

    i flushed my radiator out ~3days ago, it was all good.


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  14. #14
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    Hm, i have a feeling i may be just acting a bit paranoid....because i just went and serviced/checked the cooling system. There were some bubbles in it, and there was also not quite enough coolant in it either. I just filled it up, and it seems to be doing MUCH better.

    BUT! (yes theres still a hitch...!!)

    When the engine is warmed up, and i rev the throttle, response is VERY sluggish and slow...That is my second concern. What could be causing that?


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  15. #15
    Gods Chariot Vteckidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Atlanta Centennial Park
    Age
    44
    Posts
    33,102
    Rep Power
    71

    Default

    maybe your timing is off causing the car to run hot
    Enterprise Data Resources- Ecommerce Project Manager
    -www.usedbarcode.net

  16. #16
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    maybe your timing is off causing the car to run hot
    That is a possibility but i doubt it, because i have ignition timing marks on the helicopter/ignition coil inside the dizzy from my old engine for TDC and i got them to line up with TDC on this engine perfectly..But, if the engines are different, does that mean different firing moments?

    I should probably get my ignition timing professionally done, if thats the case..


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  17. #17
    Senior Member | IA Veteran 1civic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Douglasville
    Age
    45
    Posts
    6,449
    Rep Power
    32

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    maybe your timing is off causing the car to run hot
    This is what I would check, If he has done a leak-down along with a pressure test on the coolant then it could be lean because of timing..
    Not very common but in this case unless it has a Hairline crack in the coolant passage or Block, also a Warped block or head would cause this But unless you have done ether leak down or coolant test you will never know.. Just my

  18. #18
    Senior Member | IA Veteran 1civic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Douglasville
    Age
    45
    Posts
    6,449
    Rep Power
    32

    Default

    On a side you said you checked the head and block but don't say how.. :Also If your unsure about some timing marks then you need to search online..

  19. #19
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    Okay, looks like leakdown is next lol

    but i see no point to leakdown test if compression is at 100% in the motor

    Quote Originally Posted by 1civic
    On a side you said you checked the head and block but don't say how.. :Also If your unsure about some timing marks then you need to search online..
    I checked it with a compression test, i dont realy see a point in testing anything else if the compression is perfect on teh engine, like i said before


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  20. #20
    Gods Chariot Vteckidd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Atlanta Centennial Park
    Age
    44
    Posts
    33,102
    Rep Power
    71

    Default

    maybe your timing is off causing the car to run hot
    Enterprise Data Resources- Ecommerce Project Manager
    -www.usedbarcode.net

  21. #21
    Senior Member | IA Veteran 1civic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Douglasville
    Age
    45
    Posts
    6,449
    Rep Power
    32

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GM_TUNER
    Okay, looks like leakdown is next lol

    but i see no point to leakdown test if compression is at 100% in the motor



    I checked it with a compression test, i dont realy see a point in testing anything else if the compression is perfect on teh engine, like i said before
    Make Mr. Kidd happy and check the timing... I do agree with him on that, The other stuff I posted was based on the timing being right..

  22. #22
    JDM TYTE AnthonyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Cumming
    Posts
    24,318
    Rep Power
    61

    Default

    Did you replace the temp sensor yet? Checking and rechecking coolant levels is not going to fix the problem.

    I think you should, in all honesty, stop posting all your damn problems and take it to a mechanic. FOR ONCE get some1 who knows what they are doing.

    -Ant.
    The Carbon Fibered R6

  23. #23
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    ^^ This is the first/only problem i've posted and its the only one i have....its just the one FINAL bug after the engine swap. But, its all good, cuz i know whats wrong with it.

    Thanks alot all of yall who posted...


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  24. #24
    Senior Member G.C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Forgot
    Age
    35
    Posts
    4,781
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    what was the problem? lol
    :idb:

  25. #25
    JDM TYTE AnthonyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Cumming
    Posts
    24,318
    Rep Power
    61

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by G.C
    what was the problem? lol
    Not what, Who.

    -Ant.
    The Carbon Fibered R6

  26. #26
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyF
    Not what, Who.

    -Ant.
    WOW. Not cool, seeing as how you don't even know who i am...


    The problem is that the cylinders do not seem to be getting enough fuel inside of them to create a burn that will be in a reasonable temperature range for me to run the engine with some power/efficiency. When the engine warms to temperature, it seems to lose all power. I have to run the engine at WOT from 1k - 4k on the tach just to get it to keep up with traffic, and i also have to downshift just to get the car up small hills. Before the engine is warm though, it runs perfectly. Power, throttle response, etc. is all there; until it gets warm that is.


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  27. #27
    mm...Needs some Salt teh_mugen18's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    SwiperNoSwiping!!
    Age
    34
    Posts
    2,343
    Rep Power
    25

    Default

    bump?


    ATLANTA DA-Squad member #26...[{Home.BASE.Racing}]
    •R.I.P. LsVtec DB1....hello b20v EF...!•
    Quote Originally Posted by cactusEG View Post
    u remind me of a wigger !

  28. #28
    Turbo-Wired
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    East Cobb
    Age
    39
    Posts
    825
    Rep Power
    18

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GM_TUNER
    bump?
    Bump for what? If you know what's wrong with it, fix it. If you don't have enough fuel, then fix the amount of fuel the car's getting. Don't bump a post after you shoot down Anthony and Kidd about this when they know what they're talking about. You've had nothing but issues with your car with the old motor and were half the posts on General Tech for a while there, now you've got a swap with weak fuel.

    If the problem is fuel, then work on the stuff that improves fuel delivery.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
About us
ImportAtlanta is a community of gearheads and car enthusiasts. It does not matter what kind of car or bike you drive, IA is an open community for any gearhead. Whether you're looking for advice on a performance build or posting your wheels for sale, you're welcome here!
Announcement
Welcome back to ImportAtlanta. We are currently undergoing many changes, so please report any issues you encounter with the site using the 'Contact Us' button below. Thank you!