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    Depends on the years, but the short answer is yes.

    BTW, next time if you just cross check the engine names/codes you will be able to answer the question easier. VQ30=VQ30 regardless of model it's in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Depends on the years, but the short answer is yes.

    BTW, next time if you just cross check the engine names/codes you will be able to answer the question easier. VQ30=VQ30 regardless of model it's in.
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    agree as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Depends on the years, but the short answer is yes.

    BTW, next time if you just cross check the engine names/codes you will be able to answer the question easier. VQ30=VQ30 regardless of model it's in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Depends on the years, but the short answer is yes.

    BTW, next time if you just cross check the engine names/codes you will be able to answer the question easier. VQ30=VQ30 regardless of model it's in.
    Are you sure? Cause I know the fact that KA24 from 240sx are different from the Altimas', and SR20 from S13 are different from a lot of other SR20 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chituntang
    Are you sure? Cause I know the fact that KA24 from 240sx are different from the Altimas', and SR20 from S13 are different from a lot of other SR20 cars.
    the entire engine code has to be the exact same
    KA24E = SOHC
    KA24DE = DOHC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Depends on the years, but the short answer is yes.

    BTW, next time if you just cross check the engine names/codes you will be able to answer the question easier. VQ30=VQ30 regardless of model it's in.
    liar
    i cant use anything from a VQ30DETT on my VQ30DET

    almost everything is different

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    Quote Originally Posted by YokotaS13
    liar
    i cant use anything from a VQ30DETT on my VQ30DET

    almost everything is different
    First, don't call me names because that usually motivates me to do what is coming up next....

    Second, you obviously didn't understand the part where I said "short answer", so I'm going to give you the LONG answer which will in turn show you why I was RIGHT in the first place.

    As it fits in this discussion, and your lesson to not ever call me a liar, Nissan's V6 motors and engine code variations goes a little something like this:

    1989-1994 Maximas GXE's used the VG series motor, as in the VG30E. Which was 160Hp/182tq btw. It was also the same series used in everything from Infinity J30 to the 300zx NA and TT to the Xterra and Frontiers of today. It was phased out in the Maxima and 300z's, but still in use in the Xterras and Frontiers. Engine codes ranged from the VG30E to the VG33ER in the Eaton supercharged frontier. SAME block, hence the reason for the SAME VG prefix. These were all Aluminum blocks with Iron heads.

    1992-1994 Maxima SE's used the POS VE motors. They upped the HP to 190, but the Variable intake runners and timing was a PITA. Probably the main reason why the 300z's STAYED with the VG motors thru these years. There was some differences in the BLOCKS of the VG's vs the VE's, probably why their parts are not interchangeable. DIFFERENT engine codes. Aluminum block with Iron heads.

    1995-present Maximas sported the all new VQ series motor which is also used in the Pathfinder, 350z, Altima, and Frontier. It has designations of VQ30DE from 95-99 in Maximas. They went to VQ30DE-K in 2000-2001, which only changed due to variable intake manifold. Then in 2002 to today they are using the VQ35DE, which is the same motor that is in the 350z as well. The VQ35's have most of the internal parts totally new, and therefore different than the VQ30's on top of the obvious displacement difference and THEREFORE NOT interchangeable with each other even though they share the VQ badge. This motor series is ALL aluminum.



    You want to still question me and call me names?

    A VQ30DE is indeed the same block as a VQ30DE in any other model. There can be differences in HP/TQ and some other things, but that is due to other differences. Same thing applies to the VG series as well.

    So now that you have the LONG answer, I hope it helps. I still stand by my initial comment. Look at the engine codes and if they match, they are likely to be the same in many other ways INCLUDING the block and possibly the heads.

    I don't like to be called a liar. Especially when I've OWNED and more importantly MODDED several MAXIMAS.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    First, don't call me names because that usually motivates me to do what is coming up next....

    Second, you obviously didn't understand the part where I said "short answer", so I'm going to give you the LONG answer which will in turn show you why I was RIGHT in the first place.

    As it fits in this discussion, and your lesson to not ever call me a liar, Nissan's V6 motors and engine code variations goes a little something like this:

    1989-1994 Maximas GXE's used the VG series motor, as in the VG30E. Which was 160Hp/182tq btw. It was also the same series used in everything from Infinity J30 to the 300zx NA and TT to the Xterra and Frontiers of today. It was phased out in the Maxima and 300z's, but still in use in the Xterras and Frontiers. Engine codes ranged from the VG30E to the VG33ER in the Eaton supercharged frontier. SAME block, hence the reason for the SAME VG prefix. These were all Aluminum blocks with Iron heads.

    1992-1994 Maxima SE's used the POS VE motors. They upped the HP to 190, but the Variable intake runners and timing was a PITA. Probably the main reason why the 300z's STAYED with the VG motors thru these years. There was some differences in the BLOCKS of the VG's vs the VE's, probably why their parts are not interchangeable. DIFFERENT engine codes. Aluminum block with Iron heads.

    1995-present Maximas sported the all new VQ series motor which is also used in the Pathfinder, 350z, Altima, and Frontier. It has designations of VQ30DE from 95-99 in Maximas. They went to VQ30DE-K in 2000-2001, which only changed due to variable intake manifold. Then in 2002 to today they are using the VQ35DE, which is the same motor that is in the 350z as well. The VQ35's have most of the internal parts totally new, and therefore different than the VQ30's on top of the obvious displacement difference and THEREFORE NOT interchangeable with each other even though they share the VQ badge. This motor series is ALL aluminum.



    You want to still question me and call me names?

    A VQ30DE is indeed the same block as a VQ30DE in any other model. There can be differences in HP/TQ and some other things, but that is due to other differences. Same thing applies to the VG series as well.

    So now that you have the LONG answer, I hope it helps. I still stand by my initial comment. Look at the engine codes and if they match, they are likely to be the same in many other ways INCLUDING the block and possibly the heads.

    I don't like to be called a liar. Especially when I've OWNED and more importantly MODDED several MAXIMAS.....
    Now
    let me restate my statement

    Your a liar
    Nothing from the VQ30DETT will fit a VQ30DET
    (other than random small ass things)

    read carefully.

    you stated all VQs are short answer...the same right?
    and my short answer
    is your wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by YokotaS13
    Now
    let me restate my statement

    Your a liar
    Nothing from the VQ30DETT will fit a VQ30DET
    (other than random small ass things)

    read carefully.

    you stated all VQs are short answer...the same right?
    and my short answer
    is your wrong
    #1. Learn how to spell. It's YOU'RE, not your.
    #2. Please quote me where I said "all" VQ's are the "short answer". I said the short answer to "Is Maxima v6 block same as 300zx?", which is what this whole thread was about, is yes since in SOME years they indeed are the same BLOCKS.
    #3. If he'd asked specifically certain years, then my "short answer" may have been different. Since we have no clue what year Maxima nor what year 300z he is referring to, we are left to assume certain things.
    #4. The reason why parts off a VQ30DET and DETT do not interchange is because one is a RACE engine that is not available in U.S. production cars. Is like comparing a Honda race-only engine to a Honda street production engine. They're both Honda, but not interchangeable.
    #5. Take the VQ30DE and compare it to the VQ30DET and compare the differences. Same bore. Same stroke. SAME BLOCK. Only difference is compression ratios. One has 9:1, and the other has 10:1. So in FOR THIS THREAD'S PURPOSE, the answer would be "yes". Take the VQ30DE and the VQ30DE-K. Only difference between the two is that the "K" added a dual runner manifold. BLOCK IS STILL THE SAME. So again, in THAT example the answer again would be "yes". VQ30DET vs VQ30DETT, both which are not even available here nor available on Maximas so it's moot , the answer would be "NO". Get it? Probably not.
    Last edited by Jaimecbr900; 11-09-2007 at 01:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Depends on the years, but the short answer is yes.

    BTW, next time if you just cross check the engine names/codes you will be able to answer the question easier. VQ30=VQ30 regardless of model it's in.
    right there you said it

    vq=vq

    it was more of a EVERY VQ30 IS NOT THE SAME post.
    i was simply pointing out that the VQ30dett and VQ30det (which i own) are not the same.
    thats all
    you took it too far and literal, i said it as a sarcastic jab...but you got on your high horse.
    no big deal.
    but your still wrong in your original statement.

    And i dont have to spell correctly, this is the internet, not english class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YokotaS13
    right there you said it

    vq=vq
    Listen, if you couldn't read the part where I said "SHORT ANSWER", ie. generalizing, then why would I expect you to understand that the point WASN'T that EVERY VQ motor is the same but rather that a VQ30DE is indeed the SAME block as any other VQ30DE regardless of what car it came from. I've more than explained myself by now for you to be satisfied that was my point. Maybe I should've chewed everything up and spit it out for all the short bus riders. I guess it's too much to ask that people not split hairs about something so trivial. Then again, this is IA, so it's to be expected.


    i was simply pointing out that the VQ30dett and VQ30det (which i own) are not the same.
    BFD.....neither of those two motors are available HERE so therefore the OP wouldn't likely have EITHER ONE sitting in his garage and hence his question. So basically you interjected something that did not answer the question posted and merely split hairs about 5 characters I typed that only YOU took 100% literally. Let me just go into a sewing machine discussion and tell them that about boats.... DUR DUR.

    you took it too far and literal, i said it as a sarcastic jab...but you got on your high horse.
    no big deal.
    There you go. Just like I stated above. If you hadn't called me a "liar" when I wasn't lying, then maybe I would've let you go off on your tangent about motors that don't apply to the discussion.

    but your still wrong in your original statement.
    When it is read incorrectly, probably so.

    And i dont have to spell correctly, this is the internet, not english class.
    Whatever makes you sleep better.

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