ok i do understand what you are saying but my question is still the same b/c if you look at the bottom of the first few paragraphs is shows a link ( the list of all the cars) they hava a downpipe for and most or non-turbo. sorry david i am not trying to piss you off or anything just trying to get this shit straight.

http://www.racingbeat.com/FCExhaust/HDR%20DP.htm

this link should work now