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    Quote Originally Posted by dakilla4ever
    Ok. where should I start. The F22B came in the JDM prelude Si. Honda produced the H23 for the american market. The F22B is basically the same thing as the h23, but it has 9.2-9.5:1 compression and an 85mm bore. unlike the h23 and h22 that have the 87mm bore. It also has Iron sleeves in it stock. Everything on it is interchangeable with the h23 so...... if you want to bolt an H22 head onto it all you have to do is follow the same procedures as if you were doing an H23VTEC build. Matter of fact here is all that you will need.

    write up... not sure but i do know all the parts required.

    h22a head 93+(USDM) or 92+ (JDM) with all internals and valve cover
    h22a thermostat housing
    h22a waterpipe
    h22a waterpump
    h22a headgasket
    h22a lower crank gear
    h22a timing belt
    h22a headbolts
    h22a plug wires
    h22a intake manifold (injectors perfered)
    h22a header and downpipe
    h22a cam gears
    h22a top timing belt covers
    h22a power steering braket (h23 doesn't line up right)

    everything else is easy.. swap out all the parts and sensors from the h23 to the h22a intake manifold.

    you can use the h23 powersteering holder but you ned to grind some off the mounting point to clear the head if not it won't bolt up, about 1 inch or so....

    eh.. keep the same distributor mounts the same and is fine, but the wires are deeper in the h22a. use the manual tensioner.

    replace all the parts listed above, rmove the oilcontrol plug in the block, before putting the head on.

    install all the parts, you will need to run other wires and the ecu, but machanically this is it, you cannot use the same waterpump, lower crank gear because the teeth are off and the belt would fail....

    anybody attemptin this from a h23 is waisting his time and money.. simpler to go if you allready have an h22a... otherwise will be more expensive the other way...

    my own opinion.

    and also you need to modify a couple vacuum lines and coolant lines if you keep the non vtec throttlebody because of the extra line.. otherwise do-able....

    hope this helps....


    As long as you balance the crank and install the H22 oil squirters in, it will last much longer than anybody will think and still be able to rev as high as a stock H22. Hell throw in some h22 type-S pistons and rebush the stock h23 rods and you'll have 11.6:1 compression with a 2156cc Vtec motor. Basically your planning on making a stroker kit out of stock parts. If you done this, me and you will be in a race to see who finishes there's first. If anyone doubts what I'm saying go here and work the numbers out yourself for extra confirmation:

    http://zealautowerks.com/hfseries.html

    Not only have I done the numbers but I've seen it done. Trust me it works as long as you do it right the first time. Good luck and have fun.
    Wow! I see you've learned a lot these pass couple of years.

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    +1 to anyone who posted info on the subject. But i think Allmotor persuaded me to go a different route

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    Quote Originally Posted by blank cd
    +1 to anyone who posted info on the subject. But i think Allmotor persuaded me to go a different route
    If you decide to go with the F20B let me know. I would really like to see it in an accord. I was sooo close to getting a 98 accord ex 4 door (dont hate, 4 doors are cool too) and dropping a F20B in it, but I got a great deal on my GSR, so that will have to wait. Imagine a F20B with hotter cams, an accord euro R intake mani, and a good tune. It will rev higher than the H22A (shorter stroke!!!) and should be easier to persuade power from than a USDM H22A since the c/r is higher. I still have that on my list of honda's to build. It would definitely be different!
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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotoronly
    If you decide to go with the F20B let me know. I would really like to see it in an accord. I was sooo close to getting a 98 accord ex 4 door (dont hate, 4 doors are cool too) and dropping a F20B in it, but I got a great deal on my GSR, so that will have to wait. Imagine a F20B with hotter cams, an accord euro R intake mani, and a good tune. It will rev higher than the H22A (shorter stroke!!!) and should be easier to persuade power from than a USDM H22A since the c/r is higher. I still have that on my list of honda's to build. It would definitely be different!
    Well expect it pretty soon. Im thinking about gettin a loan or something. Im still waiting on a settlement from when i got in that car accident, but I think the F20B is definitly the way im going. And im gonna need all the help i can get when im putting this motor in too. :Goodjob:

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    Quote Originally Posted by blank cd
    Well expect it pretty soon. Im thinking about gettin a loan or something. Im still waiting on a settlement from when i got in that car accident, but I think the F20B is definitly the way im going. And im gonna need all the help i can get when im putting this motor in too. :Goodjob:
    just email me if you have any questions. Its no different than putting a H22A into an accord. you have to swap a few things, not much. Also what year is your car. The F20B is OBDII. hopefully your car is too....
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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotoronly
    just email me if you have any questions. Its no different than putting a H22A into an accord. you have to swap a few things, not much. Also what year is your car. The F20B is OBDII. hopefully your car is too....
    Yeah mines a 97 Accord EX. so hopefully most of it will bolt and connect right up.

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