cant get ef started!

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-09-2007, 11:33 AM

the motor is turnin , but not catchin all the way , i am gettin spark and it is on time , weird thing is i sprayed starter fluid into the intake and it didnt even try to catch at all , that puzzled the shit out of me , it seems like it is not gettin fuel at all, any suggestions or advice would be great, thanx fellas , oh i have a D16a6

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 11:34 AM

It's a sign that you will buy my car.

**2.0civic** · 01-09-2007, 11:34 AM

did you ever check the main relay???

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 11:35 AM

On a different note, put the key in and turn it all the way, if you hear a noise everytime you turn the key, it pump is working.

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 11:36 AM

They may be no compression.

**2.0civic** · 01-09-2007, 11:37 AM

and if you dont hear the noise, could be your problem

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 11:37 AM

I would just put a new motor and call it a day.

**Elbow** · 01-09-2007, 11:38 AM

ill give you $100 for the motor, it can go towards buying aaronfelipes crx

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 11:39 AM

That's a good start.

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-09-2007, 11:45 AM

fuel pump is workin , new fpr , new injectors , new head , new fuel filter , new alt , spark plugs , wires , dizzy , new timing belt , i have replaced alot of shit , so i'm runnin out of options

**2.0civic** · 01-09-2007, 11:47 AM

sounds like the relay.............dead relay=no fuel

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-09-2007, 11:52 AM

but why would i get no response at all from sprayin the starter fluid?

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-09-2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by simontibbett

ill give you $100 for the motor, it can go towards buying aaronfelipes crx

lol, wish i could get the rex , i just dropped in this motor over the summer , i paid $450 for it and it has less than 60,000 miles on it , it ran good when i drove it

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 12:08 PM

then sell the shell and keep that as a backup when you are building the motor from my crx into a 300 WHP beast.

**2.0civic** · 01-09-2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by aaronfelipe

then sell the shell and keep that as a backup when you are building the motor from my crx into a 300 WHP beast.

sell me the shell

**2.0civic** · 01-09-2007, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by drunk.scotsm

but why would i get no response at all from sprayin the starter fluid?

i dont know..thats odd...is it spinning just no start? how do you know your timing is right? have you compression checked it?

motors need 3 things...fuel, spark, and compression

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 12:10 PM

No, drunkskott will have it and 2 motors. One for DD and one BUILT. Buy his shell if you'd like. UUUmmmmm I think $800 would be fair

**2.0civic** · 01-09-2007, 12:10 PM

or in he case of deisels, fuel and compression

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by b18hatch

i dont know..thats odd...is it spinning just no start? how do you know your timing is right? have you compression checked it?

motors need 3 things...fuel, spark, and compression

DING DING DING
Hence.... the rings...

**2.0civic** · 01-09-2007, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by aaronfelipe

No, drunkskott will have it and 2 motors. One for DD and one BUILT. Buy his shell if you'd like. UUUmmmmm I think $800 would be fair

LIRL i was kidding..

Besides, ive never spent more than $500 on a shell and more than $250 on an EF shell....lol and flipped 4 of them

**aaronfelipe** · 01-09-2007, 12:15 PM

Well to tell you the truth, it's not my call to say how much his shell would go for and what comes with it. Talk to Drunkscott.

**2.0civic** · 01-09-2007, 12:17 PM

LOL im not buying shit yet...

**scttydb411** · 01-10-2007, 01:18 AM

sounds like a comp test is in order. you would think it would at least try and start by spraying into it.

**PD code 805D** · 01-10-2007, 04:12 AM

he was right a engine needs : 1st compression, 2nd fuel, 3rd ignition...but some people forget there cant be ignition with no O2.(oxygen) if the valves are jammed in the head you wont be getting any. check valves...take you valve cover off and make sure the intakes are working when you turn the motor.

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-10-2007, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by scttydb411

sounds like a comp test is in order. you would think it would at least try and start by spraying into it.

thats what i thought was really strange , nothin at all happened when i sprayed it in there , i am doin a compression test tomorrow , so i guess i'll have to see from there

**Z U L8R** · 01-10-2007, 08:11 AM

you don't need 02 sensors to get spark.

double check your spark plug wires and make sure they're in the right order especially on the cap

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-10-2007, 12:34 PM

firin order is correct , been check more than 5 times , wires and plugs(gapped correctly)are new , is it possible since i had my head cleaned and flushed that i need to adjust my valves?

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-11-2007, 01:08 PM

ttt

**Z U L8R** · 01-11-2007, 01:35 PM

it'd be a logical thing to check, did you do a compression test though?

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-11-2007, 01:38 PM

just tried to do a compression test and got nothin out of two cylnders

, i held the intake open , took out all plugs and cranked the car , and got nothin

**Z U L8R** · 01-11-2007, 03:49 PM

taking the valve cover off and checking the valve clearances sounds like the next logical step

**2.0civic** · 01-11-2007, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by drunk.scotsm

just tried to do a compression test and got nothin out of two cylnders

, i held the intake open , took out all plugs and cranked the car , and got nothin

did you only take out one plug at a time or all four of them at once?

**Z U L8R** · 01-11-2007, 03:57 PM

it doesn't matter.

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-11-2007, 05:49 PM

all four at once

**nofive-0** · 01-11-2007, 06:41 PM

Sounds like your timing belt is off. If you are getting absolutely ZERO compression the valves are open, or you have a catastrophic failure somewhere. I.e. bent/broken valve, hole in the piston, or hole in engine haha. Go back and check the t belt.

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-11-2007, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by drunk.scotsm

firin order is correct , been check more than 5 times , wires and plugs(gapped correctly)are new , is it possible since i had my head cleaned and flushed that i need to adjust my valves?

^^^ all of the pistons and cyl are good , tb has been checked numerous times , the timing , ie, dizzy , cam and crank are all dead set on , is it possible the valves need to be adjusted , since it was cleaned? is it possible my comp tester is crap ( $20 autozone one)?

**ranj** · 01-11-2007, 07:46 PM

try valve adjustment that could be ur problem if its really off.
it wouldn't hurt, do you know how to do it urself, if not pm me and i can kinda tell u over the internet.

**DrunkScotsman** · 01-11-2007, 07:52 PM

my buddy from work knows how to do it , he'll be over tomorrow to do it , if they are way off would that cause no readin at all on the tester , and when most machine shops clean parts , they dont adjust anything do they? thanx for everyones help so far!

**Elbow** · 01-11-2007, 09:53 PM

does your cam gear turn when it's turning over?

**ranj** · 01-11-2007, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by drunk.scotsm

my buddy from work knows how to do it , he'll be over tomorrow to do it , if they are way off would that cause no readin at all on the tester , and when most machine shops clean parts , they dont adjust anything do they? thanx for everyones help so far!

well if they are way off, then u could lose sucktion b/c ur intake valves aren't working in proper order, or you exhaust could be set wrong as well, so yeah if it is way off it could be the problem.
try it, and i don't know if this would cause no reading at all on the tester.
g/l

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