Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe View Post
NO, I won't lose this argument. You have failed to understand the real argument we are having. We are NOT having a debate to see if he is one of the great "college" players of all time. He will be etched in that forever, seeing how he is the first and ONLY quarterback to be allowed by his coach to run a qb sneek everytime a real skilled player got them into the redzone. The point is half of his rushing touchdowns belonged to his back or mr harvin. Do you guys not realize that they won the title in 2006 before he was the starting QB, he came into the best team in the country...
Again, irrelevant because they cannot choose how well the team does before they get there. Thats a privledge. Star athletes usually go to star schools so the argument that Tebow walked into a "built team" is a moot point. Of course he did, usually heavily recruited dont go to shit schools. Also, just because FL won the year before doesnt make him a LOCK to win the next year.

Also, if his running backs of HBs were getting him to the redzone and he scored , so what, thats the game. No rules against it.

the man won the Heisman, 2 national championships, Heisman finalist 2 other times, set records for rushing TDs IIRC, etc Doesnt matter about anything else, he was an elite College football player. he would probably be in most peoples top 10.

And the lebron thing, i can easily tell you don't know basketball. The miami heats lack of a title this year proves nothing! Dallas is an elite team STACKED full of shooters and hall of fame players. For miami to get through chicago (best record in the nba) and the celtics (5 future hall of fame players in their starting lineup) says GREAT things about their future!
Im probably the most knowledgeable basketball player on this forum. Ive played 25 years of organized ball (and still play to this day 5 times a week at age 31), coached several AAU teams, varsity in highschool, played against Div 1 ASU teams on the practice squad, etc.

Miami got by an AGING celtics team that was critically injured when Rondo went out, the Bulls won a very weak division and they didnt have the size or the speed to match up with Miami. Also proves my point, arguably the best player in the MVP Derrick Rose doesnt make you auto win a championship. Im just saying many people feel LEbron is the best player in basketball, and hes not won a championship yet, hes just as good as when he went with a much weaker Cleveland team.

The miami heats lack of a title this year proves everything, despite their blockbuster talent, they got beat by 1 superstar (dirk) and a bunch of journeymen. Dallas has 1 hall of famer in Dirk.


[quote]BACK TO THE REAL POINT..... we were arguing that tim tebow was/was not the best college player in HISTORY!
I stated you cant say who the greatest of all time was because its an opinion and theres too big a field.

BTW mike.... tell me the amazing things tim tebow did that we will never see again! not stats.... show me plays! amaze me..... i watched him week in and week out, he NEVER amazed me... and to answer your question, he earned his championships at Florida but with the team he had, it wouldn't have took much to win after walking into the #1 ranked team in the country. And nobody could do anything against their defense, look at all the NFL talent from his years at florida.
I dont know if we will see an option style QB win 2 national championships and the Heisman anytime soon. Again, it doesnt matter what caliber team he walked into. Winners win, period. So basically you think any great player that goes to an SEC school isnt that great because they are already walking into a contender? That as i stated, is a retarded argument.