Haters gonna hate but.....

[boosted347]

NO, I won't lose this argument. You have failed to understand the real argument we are having. We are NOT having a debate to see if he is one of the great "college" players of all time. He will be etched in that forever, seeing how he is the first and ONLY quarterback to be allowed by his coach to run a qb sneek everytime a real skilled player got them into the redzone. The point is half of his rushing touchdowns belonged to his back or mr harvin. Do you guys not realize that they won the title in 2006 before he was the starting QB, he came into the best team in the country...

And the lebron thing, i can easily tell you don't know basketball. The miami heats lack of a title this year proves nothing! Dallas is an elite team STACKED full of shooters and hall of fame players. For miami to get through chicago (best record in the nba) and the celtics (5 future hall of fame players in their starting lineup) says GREAT things about their future!

BACK TO THE REAL POINT..... we were arguing that tim tebow was/was not the best college player in HISTORY!

BTW mike.... tell me the amazing things tim tebow did that we will never see again! not stats.... show me plays! amaze me..... i watched him week in and week out, he NEVER amazed me... and to answer your question, he earned his championships at Florida but with the team he had, it wouldn't have took much to win after walking into the #1 ranked team in the country. And nobody could do anything against their defense, look at all the NFL talent from his years at florida.

To sum it up, hes great.... but the best to ever play college ball, get real!

You lost this argument when you said reggie bush was a better player in college...and also if they didnt have tebow there to throw the "real skill" players the ball they wouldnt have for sure won because without his double threat they are just another pass first team. Tebow was the ultimate game changer in college, defensive coordinators were sleepless in the week leading up to playing the gators because of Tebow, he was stopped very seldomly in college and once was by one of the most dominating defenses in college football statistically (bama). If you are gonna pull the "he walked into a national championship" team argument you can sure as hell say the same about reggie bush...for the rest of your list...Herschel Walker is the only one off that list that compares. Mcfadden...seriously??? He was good but he couldnt win a game for his team let alone a national championship or two.

[Jdm94Coupe]

You lost this argument when you said reggie bush was a better player in college...and also if they didnt have tebow there to throw the "real skill" players the ball they wouldnt have for sure won because without his double threat they are just another pass first team. Tebow was the ultimate game changer in college, defensive coordinators were sleepless in the week leading up to playing the gators because of Tebow, he was stopped very seldomly in college and once was by one of the most dominating defenses in college football statistically (bama). If you are gonna pull the "he walked into a national championship" team argument you can sure as hell say the same about reggie bush...for the rest of your list...Herschel Walker is the only one off that list that compares. Mcfadden...seriously??? He was good but he couldnt win a game for his team let alone a national championship or two.

reggis bush didnt fall into the most talented team in the nation, national champsionship, and #1 ranking.....but lets say hes not better.... care to comment on the rest?

charles woodson was incredible, but im sure you sec boys dont remember that far back
mcfadden was on a TRASH team! u dont remember?
a. peterson was a MONSTER in college, on a pass happy team....
ricky williams dominated!
peter warrick was electrifying when he touched the ball
h. walker...
e. dickerson.....

you guys gotta do more research, when did you guys start watching college ball? 2005?

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reggis bush didnt fall into the most talented team in the nation, national champsionship, and #1 ranking.....but lets say hes not better.... care to comment on the rest?

charles woodson was incredible, but im sure you sec boys dont remember that far back
mcfadden was on a TRASH team! u dont remember?
a. peterson was a MONSTER in college, on a pass happy team....
ricky williams dominated!
peter warrick was electrifying when he touched the ball
h. walker...
e. dickerson.....

you guys gotta do more research, when did you guys start watching college ball? 2005?

Mcfadden was good but not a legendary status player, as was bush, peterson is better in the pros than he was in college, ill give walker and dickerson a fair shot at it, but peter warrick dude seriously he was elusive but hell so were devin hester and percy harvin but they arent the greatest ever, if warrick didnt have a qb to throw him the ball he is just another wr...woodson was great but cant win a game by playing corner, its the truth and you know it, and williams was good but still not the same level as tebow, dickerson, and herschel...i think you are just another Tebow hater that wont give a man credit for things he accomplished but instead just pick him apart

[carguy07]

you guys gotta do more research, when did you guys start watching college ball? 2005?

Research? I know a thing or two about that, and I don't get my research from ESPN. It seems to me that you are biased toward "beast mode" type players. A good researcher knows that the numbers don't lie. Watching the game makes you think one play at a time, when the big picture is what really should matter.

*charles woodson: made acrobatic interceptions. Best at his position, plausible. Best at any position, not even close. A wide receiver who can't catch is called something else: a cornerback.
*mcfadden: was on a team that was far from trash. Most people in here forget that Peyton Hillis was even on that team.
*a. peterson was a MONSTER in college, because he was on a pass happy team. When the defense is never in their base package, nickel and dime backs weren't going to stop him.
*ricky williams dominated: agreed here. Ricky belongs in the discussion.
*peter warrick was electrifying when he touched the ball because a 26 year old was throwing him the ball.
*h. walker changed college football because no one else at Georgia was scoring points, other than Kevin Butler. Georgia completed 1 pass in their national title win.
*e. dickerson: A lot like Mcfadden. He and Craig James ran over teams and stayed fresh doing it.

[boosted347]

Research? I know a thing or two about that, and I don't get my research from ESPN. It seems to me that you are biased toward "beast mode" type players. A good researcher knows that the numbers don't lie. Watching the game makes you think one play at a time, when the big picture is what really should matter.

*charles woodson: made acrobatic interceptions. Best at his position, plausible. Best at any position, not even close. A wide receiver who can't catch is called something else: a cornerback.
*mcfadden: was on a team that was far from trash. Most people in here forget that Peyton Hillis was even on that team.
*a. peterson was a MONSTER in college, because he was on a pass happy team. When the defense is never in their base package, nickel and dime backs weren't going to stop him.
*ricky williams dominated: agreed here. Ricky belongs in the discussion.
*peter warrick was electrifying when he touched the ball because a 26 year old was throwing him the ball.
*h. walker changed college football because no one else at Georgia was scoring points, other than Kevin Butler. Georgia completed 1 pass in their national title win.
*e. dickerson: A lot like Mcfadden. He and Craig James ran over teams and stayed fresh doing it.

I approve this message lol and whos peyton hillis

[Sinfix_15]

reggis bush didnt fall into the most talented team in the nation, national champsionship, and #1 ranking.....but lets say hes not better.... care to comment on the rest?

charles woodson was incredible, but im sure you sec boys dont remember that far back
mcfadden was on a TRASH team! u dont remember?
a. peterson was a MONSTER in college, on a pass happy team....
ricky williams dominated!
peter warrick was electrifying when he touched the ball
h. walker...
e. dickerson.....

you guys gotta do more research, when did you guys start watching college ball? 2005?

I remember Charles Woodson like it was yesterday..... you act like no good CBs ever played football before...... Patrick Peterson is the closest thing in history to Charles Woodson.... Tebow played against him and beat him. You also say Tebows stats are padded because he got all the redzone attempts..... well you know what??? you, the 100k people in the stands, every player on both teams, every coach on both teams, and the millions of people watching on TV also knew that Tebow was getting the ball and they still couldnt stop him. Florida could have put "TEBOW IS RUNNING A DRAW" on their fucking billboard and you wouldnt be able to stop it. You think Georgia was OK with Tebow breaking Walker's record vs them? you think they didnt try to stop it? Bottom line is, players dont get the ball because coaches give a shit about stats, Tebow got the ball because he scored TDs. Tebow threw for 88 TDs and only 15 ints and 67% completions vs Patrick Peterson, Dre Kirpatrick, Eric Berry........ 08 Florida would have ran over 97 Michigan.

also....Tebow came into a loaded team but Reggie Bush didnt????? WTF are you smoking kid????? are you fucking serious............. You do realize that USC played in the National title for 3 straight years right????????

You also know that Bush didnt have that many more rushing yards than Tebow did..... plus Bush plays in the Pac10....... can you even imagine what Tebow would have done vs Pac10 defenses?????? really????? seriously..........

For you to say things like "you guys gotta do more research, when did you guys start watching college ball? 2005?"

you sure are sadly misinformed, because for Tebow's entire college career he had every other team in the SECs fans screaming at their TV saying "TEBOW IS GONNA RUN!!!!" and nobody could stop it.