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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewu View Post
    i really hope u are joking if not there is something terribly wrong



    I AGREE with this whole statement. You cant say someone is a great player based on 2 games especially since his team is not in contention and Orton was hurt.

    If you are going to say Tebow is great because of college and 2 NFL games, than i would say Cam Newton will be beast because he is more athletic and has a better arm than Tebow which he has displayed in college. Im not even a Auburn fan.

    Tebow is in a league of his own in some statistical categories. anyone who swiftly dejects the possibility of him being considered one of, if not THE best ever, is probably a moron.

    When Cam Newton does it for 3 more years, i will entertain that argument. Cam Newton had one of the best seasons ever. would be pretty "sack rider" of you to some up a career based on one season. Either way, as i said above on the stat categories, Cam and Tebow are alone in some aspects. Funny you act is if Cam is far beyond Tebow in stats... thats not even the case, Tebow avgs 20 more multi-purpose yards than Cam. Tebow also produced these stats on a defense minded team and not a team that was in a shoot out every game of the season.

    Haters see what they want to see. Cam is so much better than Tebow, even though Tebow produced more stats on a lower scoring offense. Id also like to see a break down of how many times Cam touched the ball in a season vs Tebow, since Florida never had the back and forth shoot outs that Auburn has. Cam also plays every minute of every game, since Auburn never puts a team away early like Florida did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Tebow is in a league of his own in some statistical categories. anyone who swiftly dejects the possibility of him being considered one of, if not THE best ever, is probably a moron.

    When Cam Newton does it for 3 more years, i will entertain that argument. Cam Newton had one of the best seasons ever. would be pretty "sack rider" of you to some up a career based on one season. Either way, as i said above on the stat categories, Cam and Tebow are alone in some aspects. Funny you act is if Cam is far beyond Tebow in stats... thats not even the case, Tebow avgs 20 more multi-purpose yards than Cam. Tebow also produced these stats on a defense minded team and not a team that was in a shoot out every game of the season.

    Haters see what they want to see. Cam is so much better than Tebow, even though Tebow produced more stats on a lower scoring offense. Id also like to see a break down of how many times Cam touched the ball in a season vs Tebow, since Florida never had the back and forth shoot outs that Auburn has. Cam also plays every minute of every game, since Auburn never puts a team away early like Florida did.
    OMG You are saying Tebow could be the BEST college player EVER? Is he better than Herschel Walker? The only reason i said that about Cam Newton is becuz u said Tebow is already a better QB after 2 games against, in all honesty, 2 not very good defenses. I would like him to play the Steelers, Pats, Bears, Eagles, Falcons, or a good contending team. Cam Newton could very well be better than Tebow or he could be like Jamarcus Russell. I am saying Newton is more athletic and is a better passer than Tebow which are skills that COULD give him the potential to be better. You cant take a players college stats and use them to make him a good NFL QB. I did that with Newton since u did it with Tebow to show how it doesnt work. 2 Examples: Tom Brady- who thought that was goin to happen, Matt Ryan- high draft pick, 3 winning seasons, 2 playoff births, and rookie of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewu View Post
    OMG You are saying Tebow could be the BEST college player EVER? Is he better than Herschel Walker? The only reason i said that about Cam Newton is becuz u said Tebow is already a better QB after 2 games against, in all honesty, 2 not very good defenses. I would like him to play the Steelers, Pats, Bears, Eagles, Falcons, or a good contending team. Cam Newton could very well be better than Tebow or he could be like Jamarcus Russell. I am saying Newton is more athletic and is a better passer than Tebow which are skills that COULD give him the potential to be better. You cant take a players college stats and use them to make him a good NFL QB. I did that with Newton since u did it with Tebow to show how it doesnt work. 2 Examples: Tom Brady- who thought that was goin to happen, Matt Ryan- high draft pick, 3 winning seasons, 2 playoff births, and rookie of the year.
    Tebow broke Walker's record and avgs more yards per game than Cam Newton, he has better stats than cam in every aspect other than rushing yards and at this very moment Tebow = 2 national titles and Cam = none. Though i do expect Cam to win the title this year, dont count chickens before they hatch.

    I guess speed = athleticism, because thats probably the only physical trait Cam has over Tebow. Also, Tebow isnt the lumbering load everyone makes him out to be, he had the fastest shuttle at the combine and ran a 4.7 40. Had the highest vertical leap in NFL history, higher than Vick who ive been told is a pretty athletic guy. I severely doubt Cam would put more weight on the bar than Tebow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Tebow broke Walker's record
    Cant compare the 2. Tebow played 1 extra season, played more games per season and his bowl stats counted where Walker's did not. If you take Walker's average TD's per season and add in a 4th year he ends with 59 to Tebow's 57. That doesnt include any bowl TD's Walker had.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    and avgs more yards per game than Cam Newton,
    Tebow was the offense. I'm not looking it up, but Tebow only had 1 or 2 RB's go for over 500 yards for a season in his 4 years at Florida. Dyer had about 1200 this year. Tebow made up a larger piece of the Florida offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    and at this very moment Tebow = 2 national titles and Cam = none.
    Tebow was on the team for the first one, but he was nothing more than a glorified fullback that year. Even though he had a bunch of short yardage TD's it didnt make much of a contribution. His TD's were a lack of a running game, nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Cant compare the 2. Tebow played 1 extra season, played more games per season and his bowl stats counted where Walker's did not. If you take Walker's average TD's per season and add in a 4th year he ends with 59 to Tebow's 57. That doesnt include any bowl TD's Walker had.



    Tebow was the offense. I'm not looking it up, but Tebow only had 1 or 2 RB's go for over 500 yards for a season in his 4 years at Florida. Dyer had about 1200 this year. Tebow made up a larger piece of the Florida offense.



    Tebow was on the team for the first one, but he was nothing more than a glorified fullback that year. Even though he had a bunch of short yardage TD's it didnt make much of a contribution. His TD's were a lack of a running game, nothing more.
    Tebow had a lot more people to share the ball with than Cam does. Harvin >>>>>>>> Any player on Auburn. With Walker, you cant assume a player is gonna repeat his performance or avg, Tebow himself is a good example of how that most likely wont happen. If Tebow had 3 2007s, he would be in a league of his own. Glorified fullback? He avg'd 325 yards a game and ended the season with less than 1k rushing yards, even though the running is what you most remember, his stats say hes a passer. The only time he was a glorified fullback was in the redzone. Either way, comparing Tebow to Walker is no insult. If you think Walker is better, thats a fair argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Tebow had a lot more people to share the ball with than Cam does. Harvin >>>>>>>> Any player on Auburn.
    he had a lot more people to share the ball with but that doesnt mean he actually did share the ball with them. Tebow was the leading rusher all 3 years he started. He led the team in both yards and attempts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    With Walker, you cant assume a player is gonna repeat his performance or avg, Tebow himself is a good example of how that most likely wont happen. If Tebow had 3 2007s, he would be in a league of his own.
    Do you know what an average is? I'll give you a hint, you need more than 1 sample to average anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Glorified fullback? He avg'd 325 yards a game and ended the season with less than 1k rushing yards, even though the running is what you most remember, his stats say hes a passer. The only time he was a glorified fullback was in the redzone. Either way, comparing Tebow to Walker is no insult. If you think Walker is better, thats a fair argument.
    Reading isnt your strong suit is it? You might want to try reading what I typed again, this time, read it a whole lot slower. You might be able to figure it out if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    he had a lot more people to share the ball with but that doesnt mean he actually did share the ball with them. Tebow was the leading rusher all 3 years he started. He led the team in both yards and attempts.



    Do you know what an average is? I'll give you a hint, you need more than 1 sample to average anything.



    Reading isnt your strong suit is it? You might want to try reading what I typed again, this time, read it a whole lot slower. You might be able to figure it out if you do.
    Tebow passed for almost 10,000 yards... youre trying to make it like hes an option QB on Army or something. You say hes a glorified fullback... fullbacks dont throw for 88 TDs and 9XXX yards.

    You're assuming that Walker's stats wouldnt have declined and youre giving him credit for another quality season to break Tebow's record. Thats a pointless statement to make.... adding TDs that dont exist. Walker could have went the same way as Mark Ingram did this year. Im arguing straight facts.... youre using your imagination to produce an argument. Tebows career is what it is, his stats are there to be evaluated. You cant round up and guesstimate what other players might have done to compare them to Tebow. If Walker played another year..... best ever... maybe so, probably so. He didnt. Tebow did. A college career is a college career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    you cant assume a player is gonna repeat his performance or avg
    Isn't that exactly what you're doing with Tebow? Already proclaiming that he's going to repeat his college success in the NFL based on his comparatively miniscule playing time so far? He had a couple of decent games, great, but that's far from proving he's got what it takes to keep up with the big boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Cam is so much better than Tebow, even though Tebow produced more stats on a lower scoring offense.
    LOL, what?! That just sounds like his offense wasn't proficient enough to get in the endzone. He just kept getting yards and attempts and completions cause he couldn't get it into the endzone. So how does that say he is better?

    Just to let you know, I don't like neither Cam nor Tebow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDM onlyy View Post
    LOL, what?! That just sounds like his offense wasn't proficient enough to get in the endzone. He just kept getting yards and attempts and completions cause he couldn't get it into the endzone. So how does that say he is better?

    Just to let you know, I don't like neither Cam nor Tebow.
    Florida didnt play the tempo that Auburn did, they actually played clock and put teams away early. more than half of Florida's games during their run were in hand at half time. Auburn has been in a shoot out all season long. They play high tempo offense from start to finish, because they have to. Florida is a defensive team, not an out score you team. yet Tebow still produced more stats than Cam. Im not saying that to discredit Cam, he has had an amazing year. But people seem to be too clouded by the new and theyre forgetting the old. The same people saying Cam is the most amazing player to ever step on grass are saying Tebow was overrated, when Tebow did basically the same thing. Cam - 305 yards/game Tebow- 325 yards/game. I think people are too wrapped up in how exciting Auburn games have been this year. A close game is more exciting than a dominant game. Florida dominated. Auburn has been a roller coaster ride all season.

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