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I think that's absolutely fucking ridiculous. Only 30 days in jail for killing a man?
Stallworth to serve 30 days in jail for DUI manslaughter...
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I think that's absolutely fucking ridiculous. Only 30 days in jail for killing a man?
not only that but DUI also...i mean granted he's a good wide out...but dang...
i'm glad he got only that, but i wish he would get the same treatment
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Interesting......he got very lucky. I wonder if its because he was in Florida, or if it was due to him playing ball.Sacramento-born Stallworth faced up to 15 years in jail after originally pleading not guilty to the charge on June 4 but a reported plea agreement will mean the 28-year-old spends 10 years on probation - two of which must be served under house arrest - following his release.
Probably because of his career and money he has. Those people ALWAYS get off easy which is complete BS.
I have heard that Florida is very "Nice" to its patrons in regards to illegal activities.
He got off easily because he's a famous football player with money, just like all the others. It's insane to think he'll only serve 30 days for taking a mans life like that. Sure he'll be on probation for a long time and never drive again, but it's still bullshit. Hopefully he fucks up again while he's no probation and actually has to serve REAL time.
Damn I was in basic when this happened so I never heard about it, he actually KILLED a person and didn't get the Vick treatment? Take some dogs to a fight across state lines and you get a couple of years, wrecklessly kill a person and you get a month and community service..
Of course.
1 human year is about 7 dog years so one is obviously worth more than the other.
As I think about it more.....let me see some of you IA people that I happen to dislike. I'm pwning your ass on the spot, lol. I can serve 30 days to take an idiot off the streets; in the name of doing good for the community.
How did I know this would turn into a Vick discussion? The 2 are in no way related and they 2 cases were not even tried in the same level of court.
My take on it, Stallworth's money won out. He paid off the family to help him in the plea. Nothing more than that. Being in Florida doesnt hurt at all, but it really comes down to the fact that he paid off the family.
2 years house arrest is pretty serious though. Unfortunately he may be allowed to play football during his house arrest. If he is, it is a further joke on our judicial system and I will lose all the respect I have for Roger Goddell's handling of legal issues in the NFL. Now if Goddell suspends him for the time he is on house arrest I will call it much closer to justice. He will be basicly in prison in his own house. Have no income, and a HUGE debt to pay out as part of the plea.
Both committed crimes, both went before a judge and both were sentenced. I don't care if it is the supreme court of municipal.. the two are comparable.
Please, two years house arrest isn't shit when any "normal" person would be serving prison time for five times that long.
this whole thing is bs! let me get a dui manslaughter charge I bet they would throw the book at me.
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In addition to the 30 days in the Miami-Dade County Jail, Stallworth was sentenced to eight years of reporting probation, two years of community control -- which is essentially house arrest -- and a lifetime suspension of his driver's license. During the eight years of probation, Stallworth will undergo numerous drug and alcohol tests.
Also, Stallworth must donate $2,500 to Mothers Against Drunk Driving, repay the Miami Beach and Miami-Dade police for the investigation and perform 1,000 hours of community service.
Stallworth also recently reached a financial settlement with Reyes' family, although the details of the settlement have not been made public.
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It was also said that Reyes may have been crossing the street illegally which may have made the case slightly more difficult to prosecute.
Comparing to the Vick case, Vick is much worse. Stallworth had a few drinks, was driving 10mph over, and hit a guy that was running across a street in the middle of the night. Vick killed and tortured countless dogs over a long period of time. Vick would most likely still be doing the same if he'd never been caught. Stallworth owned up to his mistake and showed remorse immediately.
A mistake that happened one night vs. long term behavior that only an absolutely sick individual would take part in.
As for Stallworth's sentence being light. Nothing is going to bring the family's father back, including 15 years in prison. If accepting a settlement helps the family for years to come but keeps Stallworth out of jail, why not?
some guy came to my HS back in the day.. Killed someone while DUI... I think his sentence was 30 yrs in jail...
Judicial system is BULLSHIT!!
Did he kill someone that was running across the street in the middle of the night?
killed someone, under different circumstances, but the result was the same..
LOL @ house arrest! Aww poor guy, have to sit in his 50,000 sq ft home with all the shit in the world to entertain him..
LOL reps
So if the guy had ran across the street in a crosswalk everything would've been ok and Stallworth's drunk ass wouldn't have hit him........
Fact is Stallworth is the one that fucked up here, not the guy that decided to cross the street outside of a crosswalk. As if you've never done that before, maybe you deserve to get hit by a drunk driver too
Wow, way to take a statement and run with it to turn it into something completely different.So if the guy had ran across the street in a crosswalk everything would've been ok and Stallworth's drunk ass wouldn't have hit him........
Fact is Stallworth is the one that fucked up here, not the guy that decided to cross the street outside of a crosswalk. As if you've never done that before, maybe you deserve to get hit by a drunk driver too
Fact is Stallworth and the guy that ran across the street fucked up. Of course he didn't deserve to get hit. Fact is most people are taught as children to look both ways before crossing the street and not to cross if there's a car coming, or run if it looks close.
The 2 are comparable only in that they are both crimes.
As mentioned earlier, Stallworth made a mistake and he got off light because he has money.
Vick is an entirely different case. His was long term behavior and not simply a mistake that cost someone his life.
I am not defending the sentence that Stallworth got at all. I am stating that it has no bearing on the Vick case. Stallworth did get off easy because he has money and the family was more interested in money than "justice". Thats on them, not anyone else. If I was the judge in this case, I would have rejected the plea. If this case is like most plea deals, there is a gag order on most of the details of the plea (sentence obviously not included). We may never know if the cops on the scene screwed up in some way and would have caused a critical piece of evidence to be thrown out. That could explain the light sentence.
Lifetime ban on driving would be like a death sentence to me. I can't stand being in a car with someone else driving me. I think he got a light sentence, but reading what has been let out leads me to believe the case was basically a toss up.
thank goodness...i was thinking i was the only one thinking the same thing...watched espn and many of the analysts agreed with the ruling..saying it was fair....WTFFF!!?!? unbelievable..
Yeah, I saw that on ESPN, too. Couldn't believe what I was hearing.
This whole thing kind of reminds me of former Trashers player Danny Heatley and his accident that killed his teammate Dan Snyder. IIRC, he got vehicular homicide along with a slew of other charges and didn't serve a day behind bars...
first off i really dont understand how vicks wrong doing is worse than stallworths. just think about it seriously, banking dogfighting got vick two years, killing a man gets you thirty days? come on now. nobody really knows for sure how long or how hands on vick was with his crime(no tapes, pictures) and we do know for a fact that dante drunk azz ran a man down like a dog and is only getting 30 days. not to mention he still has his career.
well this is proof that money talks, and walks..
One point that hasn't been brought up or thought of in the "comparisons" of Vick and Stallworth. I'm sure Stallworth didn't intentionally get drunk and run over someone. Vick, on the other hand, was doing this, INTENTIONALLY, for however long he was. There is quite a huge difference in accident and purpose.
I'm not making light of Stallworth's sentencing. I think it's crap that he got but 30 days. Total bullshit.
And to sshonda, no sense in trying to make it sound worse than it already is. Stallworth did NOT "run a man down like a dog." Think before you post. Later, QD.
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you know what though QD, the two crimes are actually quite comparable when you think about it. both crimes involved the killing of someone sense the world tends to believe that dogs and human are equal. yes both crimes are wrong, but come on dude seriously. vick lost way more than he should have for this one, and stallworth just loses thirty days apart from society for killing a family man? thats rediculous.
I'm not going to get into why you're wrong on this because this topic is about Vick. Vick intentionally did what he did. He knew full well of what was going on. Stallworth wasn't out to get drunk and then go kill someone.
Stallworth got off easier than a virgin masterbating to his first porn movie. Plain and simple. Later, QD.
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huh? don't understand how he not intentionally got drunk? he is a grown man and pretty sure he knows his limits with alcohol. Even if the assumption that he didn't mean to get drunk is true, he knew he was drunk before he cranked the car and drove so he should have had somebody drive for him.
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This is my thought also. Drinking is by choice, and he consumed alcohol past the legal limit, and proceeded to get in his vehicle and drive. All this is telling people is that its ok to get shitty drunk and drive home.
30 days is a fucking joke. I dont care if he is on house arrest. He serves no more inspiration to life than Vick did. Both fucked up and paid a crap ton in money, but since we are comparing, Stallworth hit the lotto.
Vick lost his image over dogs and gambling, finances gone to shit, and was in jail for a longer time. Stallworth killed a HUMAN, paid money, lightly tainted his image, and most likely will play ball and lose a few endorsements.
Maybe Vick had more to lose, but who's to say. Either way, Stallworth's sentence is a complete crock of shit. Intentional or not, he had complete control of his actions, as did Vick. He should have been drinking responsibly, and if not, had a DD lined up.
I would hope that he meant hit someone while he was drunk, if not, that post is even more fucked up than the Vick apologists.
absolutely right. Why do you people think the man's family isn't in an uproar with him only getting 30 days... He gave a shit ton of money to the family, probably a certain percentage of his yearly salary for a looong time. That's all there is to it.
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Does this mean that PETA has more pull than MADD? MADD is a much more respected organization, I don't see why they have not raised hell about this.
The man's family that Stallworth killed agreed with the sentence. How can we judge better than they can?
and let me post it again for everyone that keeps saying all he got was 30 days...
30 days in jail
2 years house arrest
8 years reporting probation
random drug/alcohol tests throughout those 10 years
lifetime suspension of driver's license
1,000 hours of community service
donated $2,500 to MADD
repay Miami PD for the accident investigation
financial settlement with the family of the dead man
Did you really misunderstand what I posted? It seems you did.
By your "reasoning," you think that Stallworth intended to go run over someone? I never said anything about him NOT intending to get drunk. Don't twist my words around. Take them as they are and you'll see what I'm saying. Later, QD.
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wow some of you really amaze me. when the whole vick thing was going on yall was screaming for blood. way before the man was even sentence he was losing a shit load of money n yet u guys wanted more blood you wanted this man to lose eveything he had. quite frankly i dont care about a stupid dog compared to a human life. i dont give a fuck with dept handle the case. muder is fuckin murder point blank period. vick funds dog fighting let me make this clear for you dumb fucks there was never any proof tht vick faught the dogs toruted the dogs or even killed the dogs the videos no photos all they had was him funding it. i am not sayin vick was not wrong but give me a fuckin break some of you still feel the man should never play football again lolol bunch of idots. this man goes out and gets drunk for all of you that are real people n not dumb asses when you go out drinking you body will tell you when ur hitting ur limit you will start to feel a lil buzz get dizzy thts your fuckin clue to stop drinking and shit u got fuckin money call a cab. if he knew he was going out to have some drinks bring a fuckin chauferr i know i spelt it wrong but u know wht i mean. so there is no fuckin excuse you can give me about this piece of shit. like i said before people have and will commit far worst crimes than dog fighting or funding dog fighting and they get a slap on the arm. i mean the fucker lives in a manison aint like he on house arrtes in a dam apartment complex.
Some people really should learn basic English sentence structure, spelling and comprehension before trying to convey an argument to other people. It's hard to take someone serious when every other word is violently misspelled. Later, QD.
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He didnt only get 30 days. He in addition got 2 years on house arrest and 8 years probation.
I am pretty sure other people misunderstood your post or they wouldn't have said anything as well. Only I was asking was to explain what you said here:
"I'm sure Stallworth didn't intentionally get drunk and run over someone. Vick, on the other hand, was doing this, INTENTIONALLY, for however long he was. There is quite a huge difference in accident and purpose."
from those couple of sentences it sound like you were saying he didn't intentionally want to hit somebody which is true, but if your drunk and know you are drunk you should have has someone else drive you, so you don't put yourself in that situation. That was my point, so please explain how I was twisting your words?
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