Other people? Only one.Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
Because you read too far into what I was saying and not using the logical meaning behind my post. Common sense would have told anyone that I was referring to Stallworth not intending to go out and kill someone (drunk or no). Later, QD.
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I count two others but thats irrelevant. I wasn't reading too far into it, just reading what you wrote and taking it like i saw it written. IMO if your drunk and driving that is the same as intentionally going out to kill somebody because your not just a danger to yourself but to others as well.
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It is irrelevant, true, but it was only one other.
And you did read too much into it. But according to what you're calling logic, Stallworth said to himself that he was going to get drunk and go out and kill a man?
Sound weird? To me it does. Intent to drink to get drunk? Probably. Did he know ahead of time that he would taking himself home? Don't know, but I'd venture to say yes. Did he know he was going to kill someone? Doubt it. Do I have any remorse for Stallworth and what he did? Fuck no. I think he should get the death penalty.
But I've explained it three times and if you still can't get it, then that's on you. You read it how you want to read it. Later, QD.
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third time a charm because that time it actually made sense to me this time. thank ya for the explanation.
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I read in a report that stallworth had flashed his head lights at the guy...so if he was able to flash his heads, then how come he didnt just stop and let the guy get across the street. he was probably too impaired to do so. By the way, doesnt flashing your heads usually give that person right of way?
Stallworth has been suspended indefinitely by the NFL today. Just heard it on ESPN 2 minutes ago.
Source:Cleveland Browns' Donte Stallworth suspended indefinitely by NFL
by Tony Grossi/Plain Dealer Reporter
Thursday June 18, 2009, 4:47 PM
AP PhotoCleveland Browns wide receiver Donte Stallworth has been suspended indefinitely by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.
CLEVELAND -- Browns receiver Donte Stallworth has been suspended indefinitely by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.
Stallworth, who pleaded guilty to DUI manslaughter on Tuesday and received a 30-day jail sentence with other penalties for killing a pedestrian on March 14, will not be allowed to visit the Browns' facility or participate in any team activities.
In a letter to Stallworth, Goodell wrote:
"The conduct reflected in your guilty plea resulted in the tragic loss of life and was inexcusable. While the criminal justice system has determined the legal consequences of this incident, it is my responsbility as NFL Commissioner to determine appropriate league discipline for your actions, which have caused irreparable harm to the victim and his family, your club, your fellow players and the NFL."
Goodell wrote that Stallworth violated both the league's personal conduct and substance abuse policies.
"In this case, there is ample evidence to warrant significant discipline under both policies," Goodell wrote.
The suspension is effective immediately. Goodell wrote that he would schedule a meeting with Stallworth and his representatives "in due course", after which he will make a final determination on discipline.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/inde...stallwo_2.html
Until I see a source I will call BS on this.
It has been proven he was only 10 mph over the speed limit, if he had the sense to flash his headlights, then he had the sense to stop in time. If this report is true, then I tend to give Stallworth less responsibility and put more blame on the guy that got run down.
And more proof Stallworth isnt getting off as easy as some may like to think. Suspended without pay indefinitely and he will still have to make his payments to the family.
BOut time you see it my way.
J/k, lolol. But there you go. Later, QD.
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wtf? how do you give stallworth less responsibility, the man got in a car after drinking alcohol, and you say less blame on stallworth lol man get outta here with that.
I will have to agree with you on that, VIP.
BJ, whether or not the guy got out of the way is irrelevant to the fact that if Stallworth had time/sense to stop, he should have. Even if Stallworth were sober and he had time to stop, and didn't, he would still be charged some sort of manslaughter crime. Later, QD.
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Again, if Stallworth saw him in time to flash his lights at him I will give him the benefit that he had time to stop if he was aware the man was going to cross the street. If Stallworth had the sense to flash the lights I will also guess that he wasnt so drunk he was incapable of missing the guy if he knew he was going to cross the street.
That said, I agree with you QD. That doesnt relieve him of the responsibility for driving drunk and killing someone. I only mean that he was less at fault than say the drunk that could barely walk and still got behind the wheel.
I will still say BS on the entire notion of the flashing lights until I see some reference to it.
Do you stop your car every time you pass someone walking down the street? I know for a fact that I dont.
Agreed.
I'm not talking about walking down the street. I'm talking about walking into the street. Later, QD.
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call it BS all you want, but its true, just read it. usually when you flash your lights at someone, your giving them right of way to cross in front of you. everybody knows that.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4033632
Your own article says Stallworth flashed his lights as a warming so obviously he didnt know that flashing your lights means go ahead.
The report also quoted Stallworth as saying he flashed his lights at Reyes in an attempted warning and that Stallworth was driving about 50 mph in a 40 mph zone.
I was wondering that myself. Not to mention when you see a car coming down the street at more than 40mph (and you know when a car is going fast) flashing it's lights at you, it's probably not telling you to go ahead and cross. Later, QD.
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that guy probably thought donte was going to slow down and allow him to cross, he was only doing 50, im pretty sure a bentley can slow down just as fast as it can pick up.
There is also the factor of how far away the car was from the guy and when he started flashing him. If the car is only about 3-4 car lengths away when the driver started flashing, and going 50mph, it's a safe bet that he isn't saying go ahead and cross. If the car is a good block down the street, then the dude should have gotten across without even a flash needed.
Not to mention how do you (or anyone) know if the guy knew it was a Bentley to know whether it had good brakes. Later, QD.
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