Quote Originally Posted by ubers2k
There really aren't any "good" horror movies. Most of the movies produced now are more for shock factor than they are to scare you. If they get you to jump even the slightest, then they've done their job. Movie ratings and the people reviewing them are all from an opinionated standpoint. Some get scared, while others don't. If the person reviewing the film doesn't get anxious, nervous, or scared at all, then it gets a poor rating. The only horror critics I will even consider are those that are actually horror movie directors or creators. I can't stand the others that actually shoot down the movie because it isn't thought-provoking enough or believeable. Think about it. Some of the greatest horror movies around aren't believeable (think Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Hellraiser).

Oh, and I laugh during every single "scary" movie. I have never had one scare me, but that's just me.
I disagree. There are good horror movies out there that are still being made (i.e. 1408 and 28 Weeks Later IMO), but purely gory films are not scary whatsoever. For example, the guys that made Hostel knew that their movie wasn't scary, so they hyped up the gore in all their advertisements.

I said one reason that SAW was bad because it wasn't believable was because it is just supposed to be a human serial killer killing other people, so IMO, it should be pretty believable. Also, that was far from my only complaint about the movie. The movies you listed are good, and they don't have to be believable at all. Two different categories of horror movies IMO.

It takes more than a couple pop ups and gory scenes for a movie to scare me, especially when the main character (Cary Elwes from Robin Hood: Men in Tights), makes William Shatner look like the best actor ever. Also, I see more complex twists when I tie my shoes than when I watch SAW.