What Suspension you Rocking on the Ef?

[southside]

Someone said if you dont buy the top hats the GC and Konis ride like sh*t.Is that true im trying to see because ,my friend said the whole setup cost 1g with top hats.This is for a ef but last time I checked it was like 700$

[Black R]

not true. the extended tophats give additional travel before hitting the bumpstops - so you can go lower with them.

[bigdare23]

Jeff, tell them about the "proven" suspension setup everyone runs up there where you at. LOL

[jfrolang]

Jeff, tell them about the "proven" suspension setup everyone runs up there where you at. LOL

There are two types of Honda suspension "gurus" in Idaho. The first set is convinced that ebay coilovers + KYB AGX is an awesome setup, and anybody spending more is dumb. The second group clings like a monkey to the hairs on Tein's sack.


But back to southside's question, the extended upper mounts only give you more suspension travel. If you are a fan of the "slam it till you can't slam it no more" look, then you'll probably bottom out a lot and any suspension will ride like ass.

[southside]

this is about as low as I wanna be well maybe a lil bit lower.I was wondering should I purchase top hats.And what you got jfro?ebay with agx lol or tein

[jfrolang]

And what you got jfro?ebay with agx lol or tein

See my thread. I have Konis + Ground Controls with 450/550 springs, and GC upper mounts.

[southside]

Nice why did you go with 450/550

[southside]

and does gc sell complete kit with konis

[jfrolang]

Why 450/550? Because I had 336/448 and I considered it soft in the front, so I stepped up to 450. I also wanted to maintain a similar gap in the rear spring rates, so they got bumped up to 550.

GC doesn't sell Konis. Panducky has a package deal or you could look on ebay for the best price on Konis.

[matthewAPM]

ITA civic

-Ground Control coilovers
-Eibach Springs (400F/550R rain, 600F/750R, 900F/1200R)
-Koni 3011 shocks
-Spherical bushings front and rear
-CRX HF front swaybar
-ST 24mm rear bar

STS civic

-Ground Control Coilovers
-Eibach Springs (450F/600R)
-Koni Yellow Race Valved/Shortened Shocks
-CRX HF Front sway bar with poly endlinks
-All Energy Suspension Black Poly bushings
-Ingalls rear camber arms
-Progress Rear 24mm Infinitely adjustable sway bar. Not the three holes like the ST – it’s a slot.
- GPO3 Red Glastic rear sway bar pillowblock mounts.

[green91]

i thought you didnt own civics anymore???

[southside]

Why 450/550? Because I had 336/448 and I considered it soft in the front, so I stepped up to 450. I also wanted to maintain a similar gap in the rear spring rates, so they got bumped up to 550.

GC doesn't sell Konis. Panducky has a package deal or you could look on ebay for the best price on Konis.

thanks man I just want a nice firm ride.not something soft and bounce.But not somthing that everytime I hit a bump I go into shock.

[matthewAPM]

i thought you didnt own civics anymore???

not a STS civic...

[green91]

where did you find front spherical bushings? or did you buy this one already setup like your last one?

[matthewAPM]

where did you find front spherical bushings? or did you buy this one already setup like your last one?

nope. this one is getting built from the ground up. I got them from a road race guy. He took them off his car. when it was wrecked and got them from him. ill ask

[green91]

that would be great, ive seen the spherical trailing arm bushings, and rear LCA with them but never front LCA with sphericals. Id rather have spherical instead of the urethane bushings

[matthewAPM]

that would be great, ive seen the spherical trailing arm bushings, and rear LCA with them but never front LCA with sphericals. Id rather have spherical instead of the urethane bushings

oo yeah. spherical FTW. im ready for this thing to be done

[00CelicaGT]

thought u were getting a miatta

[matthewAPM]

thought u were getting a miatta

nope

[southside]

Why 450/550? Because I had 336/448 and I considered it soft in the front, so I stepped up to 450. I also wanted to maintain a similar gap in the rear spring rates, so they got bumped up to 550.

GC doesn't sell Konis. Panducky has a package deal or you could look on ebay for the best price on Konis.

I couldnt find Panducky on ebay

[green91]

thats why he said OR not look for panducky ON

[southside]

thats why he said OR not look for panducky ON

Nevermind I found it on panducky the package deal is 700 for koni reds,and 900 for koni yellows

[matthewAPM]

koni yellow FTW. great stuff if ur not that stiff. but for good rates, DONT use them. they cant handle it. the only way they work is to get the shorten and valved. I would just use koni 3011.

[KevinT707]

Recently I've been noticing that all the EF gurus (Jfrolang, Green91, Slowhatch) are not running the full coilovers from Omni/KSport/Function & Form and so now I'm starting lean more towards the Koni Yellow/GC combo with some stiff springs so I can conquer the mountains .. Hrmmm

Question for Slowhatch: Does the 500f/600r spring rates feel TOO stiff? Cause I ride my daily and don't want my back & neck hurting.

[jfrolang]

Here's my take on my 450/550 setup: It's fine for a street driven car, definitely firm, but not going to kill you. I have no reservations about going on a road trip, and no complaints during my daily commute. In the last auto-x I felt like the front was soft though... which means I'm eventually going to order 700 lb springs and get my Konis re-valved, and then I'll run 550/700. I don't trust the OTS Koni yellows beyond around 600 lbs, a friend of mine blew his rears out running 450/650.

Best thing I can recommend if you're unsure about what spring rates to buy is to take a ride with someone else that has a known setup.

[slow_hatch]

Question for Slowhatch: Does the 500f/600r spring rates feel TOO stiff? Cause I ride my daily and don't want my back & neck hurting.

No they aren't that stiff, if I would have had the money to get the race valved yellows, I would have gotten higher rates. 600lbs is about the limit of "OTS"(off the shelf) yellows. So I stuck with rates under that. Once I have the $$ i'll send them back and get them re valved and buy stiffer springs. BTW i've never even adjusted my shocks from the softest setting yet

[KevinT707]

Best thing I can recommend if you're unsure about what spring rates to buy is to take a ride with someone else that has a known setup.

Ok cool, preciate the input my fellow EF Guru! I might just steal your 450/550 combination.

No they aren't that stiff .. BTW i've never even adjusted my shocks from the softest setting yet

Oh really, so since it's on softest then no wonder you say they're not that stiff. Turn them all the way stiff foo! I'm thinking your ride might be a tad too stiff for me but I want/should ride with you to find out for myself. Are you coming to the Varsity Meet on Thurs? Perhaps you could take me for a ride then.. Man, I'm getting sucked into the world of 'curves'

[Code-Aye]

you mean what suspension are you rocking on your EE's, or ED?
hahaha

[Revmaynard]

you mean what suspension are you rocking on your EE's, or ED?
hahaha

Just like your car is JDMmadness.

[bigdare23]

owned LOLOLOL

[cwhiteboy]

Just like your car is JDMmadness.

[slow_hatch]

Ok cool, preciate the input my fellow EF Guru! I might just steal your 450/550 combination.


Oh really, so since it's on softest then no wonder you say they're not that stiff. Turn them all the way stiff foo! I'm thinking your ride might be a tad too stiff for me but I want/should ride with you to find out for myself. Are you coming to the Varsity Meet on Thurs? Perhaps you could take me for a ride then.. Man, I'm getting sucked into the world of 'curves'

Well the spring rates are what will determine how STIFF the car is. The shocks only control the rate of rebound and the ride height doesn't effect ride unless your low enough to be hitting the bumps stops or bottoming out. I may come down to the V, but at the moment its not looking promising.

[southside]

I hope I get to make it to the V Next time.Im praying HOPEFULLY somones LISTENING

[matthewAPM]

Recently I've been noticing that all the EF gurus (Jfrolang, Green91, Slowhatch) are not running the full coilovers from Omni/KSport/Function & Form and so now I'm starting lean more towards the Koni Yellow/GC combo with some stiff springs so I can conquer the mountains .. Hrmmm

Question for Slowhatch: Does the 500f/600r spring rates feel TOO stiff? Cause I ride my daily and don't want my back & neck hurting.

Its depends on what you call stiff and what shocks you are using. dont go over 550lb on OTS yellows. 3011 or custom yellow for something higher.

and I would make the rates 500F/650R.

[southside]

500/650r would be with modded yellows

[matthewAPM]

500/650r would be with modded yellows

wow. you CANT read. you fail

[southside]

that was a question because what I read wasnt so clear.

[dustinkelley]

i know im posting on all of yalls ef squad stuff but im looking for some front struts for my car anyone got a reasonable price bought the wrong ones for my hatch its just like uproots to give you an idea.....
PM ME

[LIKEG6]

I think I'm gonna go with some PIC's. My buddy has some and they look/ride great

[dustinkelley]

well pm me if you know anyone that has some for sale i need some really just the struts mainly front ones but if after market i want all four but keep in mind if you want as much as new ill just by new ones!!!thanks