2010 F1 Bahrain (Season's finally here!!!!)

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Second practice times.

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Rosberg Mercedes 1:55.409 23
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:55.854 + 0.445 22
3. Schumacher Mercedes 1:55.903 + 0.494 23
4. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:56.076 + 0.667 28
5. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:56.459 + 1.050 18
6. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:56.501 + 1.092 26
7. Massa Ferrari 1:56.555 + 1.146 30
8. Petrov Renault 1:56.750 + 1.341 26
9. Alonso Ferrari 1:57.140 + 1.731 25
10. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:57.255 + 1.846 24
11. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:57.352 + 1.943 27
12. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:57.361 + 1.952 29
13. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:57.452 + 2.043 21
14. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:57.833 + 2.424 29
15. Kubica Renault 1:58.155 + 2.746 29
16. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:59.799 + 4.390 31
17. Webber Red Bull-Renault 2:00.444 + 5.035 12
18. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 2:00.873 + 5.464 23
19. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 2:00.990 + 5.581 14
20. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2:02.037 + 6.628 3
21. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 2:02.188 + 6.779 21
22. Senna HRT-Cosworth 2:06.968 + 11.559 17
23. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1
24. Chandhok HRT-Cosworth

[Elbow]

I'm not going to be posting in here much as I don't have cable and my viewing will be delayed.

GO SCHUMACHER!!!!

I'm SO excited about this season.

[BKgen®]

I'm giddy with excitement

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GO SCHUMACHER!!!!

I'd love to see Schumacher succeed, but I'm kind of hoping to see Rosberg pull some equally fast times or faster. So far they're both looking pretty strong. It'll be interesting to see if they can make a run at the constructor's championship

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Opinions of the McLaren wing? I'm still really confused at it after reading this....

Autosport...

Johnathon Noble



Mercedes GP team principal Ross Brawn thinks he and his fellow competitors have no option but to resign themselves to developing complicated venting systems in the wake of McLaren's ingenious device being approved by the FIA.

The F-duct vent system on the McLaren, which helps stall the rear wing for a straight-line speed boost via the driver covering a hole in the cockpit, has been the subject of intense controversy in the build-up to the Bahrain Grand Prix.

Some teams are unhappy that the FIA has deemed it legal - as they believe it is effectively a moveable aerodynamic device. However, the governing body has adopted the stance that the driver cannot be treated as a moving part of the car.

Brawn, whose team stole a march on the opposition 12 months ago when it ran double diffusers, has ruled out taking the matter any further and instead says his focus will be on bringing the concept onto his own W01.

"We will have to get on and make our own version of it now," said Brawn. "It wasn't clear what the situation was, but we have had clarity from the FIA about how they want to treat it, so we are all off running in that direction."

Details of what McLaren was up to were unclear before the Bahrain Grand Prix weekend, but close analysis of the car by rival teams has produced more information about the design idea.

Brawn said about his own team's view on the matter: "We had an idea that they were doing it - we didn't understand how they were doing it. But now we do."

Although Brawn is relaxed about the matter, Lotus technical chief Mike Gascoyne is still unsure why the duct system has been approved.

"I still believe it's a moveable aerodynamic device because the configuration of the [car's] aerodynamics are changing," he explained. "Whether the driver is doing with it his knee or not, they [the aerodynamics] are not the same all the time so therefore it must be a moveable aero device.

"We know what the rules are...but it is a pretty silly interpretation."

[cjhutch]

I'm a little confused about how that duct works.

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I'm a little confused about how that duct works.

Same here,anyone care to dumb it down for me? Does it have to do with the amount of airflow?

[jdm>usdm]

Same here,anyone care to dumb it down for me? Does it have to do with the amount of airflow?

What is basically does is scoop up air and channels it through the body, then releases the air under the rear of the wing. In a sense, its creating lift, which reduces the down force. By the way I understand it, the driver is able to control a panel with his knee that allows it to open and close.

So basically, during the long straights of the track, the driver opens it up and is able to reduce some of the down force which works against the car at high speeds.

A pretty ingenious way to get around the rules.

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What is basically does is scoop up air and channels it through the body, then releases the air under the rear of the wing. In a sense, its creating lift, which reduces the down force. By the way I understand it, the driver is able to control a panel with his knee that allows it to open and close.

So basically, during the long straights of the track, the driver opens it up and is able to reduce some of the down force which works against the car at high speeds.

A pretty ingenious way to get around the rules.

Doesn't that constitute as driver changes to the aero? I thought that was against the rules. Either way pretty clever.

I'm pulling for Rosberg, but those Ferrari's were looking fast in qualifying this morning. Should be a good race tomorrow

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Doesn't that constitute as driver changes to the aero? I thought that was against the rules. Either way pretty clever.

I'm pulling for Rosberg, but those Ferrari's were looking fast in qualifying this morning. Should be a good race tomorrow

Driver changes to the aero? Drivers change the aero all the time by looking left and right. Consider how Ruben's always tilts his helmet on the straight.

The big thing behind this is the driver isn't considered part of the aero.

The issue here is there is a device on the car that stalls the rear wing which the teams said they wouldn't make for more than ten years.

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Driver changes to the aero? Drivers change the aero all the time by looking left and right. Consider how Ruben's always tilts his helmet on the straight.

The big thing behind this is the driver isn't considered part of the aero.

The issue here is there is a device on the car that stalls the rear wing which the teams said they wouldn't make for more than ten years.

Excuse my ignorance, just trying to learn. Thanks for the clarification

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Excuse my ignorance, just trying to learn. Thanks for the clarification

I didn't mean to look cocky if i did.

The information about this device really hit on the morning of Friday practice. Bahrain isn't the best test for it right now as the circuit was ruined (if it could be any worse) by splitting the 2 parts of the track more and introducing what is effectively a 3 turn chicane on what used to be a fast section of track. It's become more of a stop go circuit than it was before.

Race day will always tell more though.

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I didn't mean to look cocky if i did.

The information about this device really hit on the morning of Friday practice. Bahrain isn't the best test for it right now as the circuit was ruined (if it could be any worse) by splitting the 2 parts of the track more and introducing what is effectively a 3 turn chicane on what used to be a fast section of track. It's become more of a stop go circuit than it was before.

Race day will always tell more though.

What little I know about F1 circuits, that new section on Bahrain looked absolutely horrible. The cars were getting jarred around terribly.

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I hate new circuits but I like this track, it's bumpy as hell and throws the cars around which I like. I hate boring smooth stuff. lol It shows more car control.

Qualifying was awesome and I'll be watching all the coverage on BBC this year a little delayed but I really enjoy their at the event coverage.

[Machado]

I am excited and will be watching tomorrow!

Fernando Alonso

[Elbow]

I hate Alonso. If there are two drivers I really can't stand it's Alonso and Hamilton.

Schumacher FTMFW...

Behind him Vettel and Rosberg.

[Elbow]

Anyone else feeling like a kid waiting for Christmas morning?

[dazn]

Anyone else feeling like a kid waiting for Christmas morning?

ummmmm, no. I actually have a life outside of racing....



















ah fuck, who am I kidding. I cant fucking wait! WWWOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Elbow]

ummmmm, no. I actually have a life outside of racing....



















ah fuck, who am I kidding. I cant fucking wait! WWWOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You got me for a second.

[Machado]

I hate Alonso. If there are two drivers I really can't stand it's Alonso and Hamilton.

Schumacher FTMFW...

Behind him Vettel and Rosberg.

lol i will make sure to get you an Alonso shirt from puma when they come out.

Im excited to see how Schumacher will do.

7Hrs 51Min till the race

[Ziptied]

Wish I could be there this year, I was at the first one in Bahrain years ago.

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EDIT

Race at 6:30 AM on speed

[Machado]

It's not live on Speed. What the hell is this?

Race is listed at 12:30 pm on the schedule but i know its on right now.

race is at 7:30am from what i understand

[EJ25RUN]

race is at 7:30am from what i understand

OH FUCK IM FORGETTING DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.

ARGH.

Race at 6:30 AM.

[Machado]

6:30 AM

on the f1 website and on speed race cast it has a race count down and there is 1hr 25min left till the race starts.

I did see the 12:30 pm thing but i also saw it said 7:30am so idk

[Machado]

taken from speeds website

Watch The Bahrain Grand Prix LIVE Sunday at 7:30 am. Eastern on SPEED

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I think im having issues with my clock so 7:30 it is.

[Machado]

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Who's watching?

Can't wait to show a Nascar fan this 2-3 sec red bull tire change.

[cjhutch]

Who's watching?

Can't wait to show a Nascar fan this 2-3 sec red bull tire change.

I'm watching, but comparing their pit numbers is not fair. Red Bull is going to have about 12 people out there to change 4 tires. I love the look of the new Renault cars. Kinda disappointed to see Hulkenberg go off track and was that really oil burning off Webber's car at the beginning?

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I'm watching, but comparing their pit numbers is not fair. Red Bull is going to have about 12 people out there to change 4 tires. I love the look of the new Renault cars. Kinda disappointed to see Hulkenberg go off track and was that really oil burning off Webber's car at the beginning?

I didn't say it was supposed to be fair. No reason Nascar can't figure out what a single lug is. Or F.I. ect ect.

That had to be oil of Webber.

[cjhutch]

^NASCAR still hasn't figured out how to race their cars on a barely damp track or switch to a tire manufacturer that knows what they're doing.

The series of tire changes that just happened was amazing. Hamilton just set fastest lap, but Vettel just got fresh tires so let's see what he runs.

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^NASCAR still hasn't figured out how to race their cars on a barely damp track or switch to a tire manufacturer that knows what they're doing.

The series of tire changes that just happened was amazing. Hamilton just set fastest lap, but Vettel just got fresh tires so let's see what he runs.

Damn commercials. I bet BBC viewers last saw a commercial over an hour ago.

[cjhutch]

Damn commercials. I bet BBC viewers last saw a commercial over an hour ago.

So true, it's almost worth waiting for the race to hit a torrent site so I can just skip all the commercials. I'm going to miss the end of the race anyways since I have to go to work.

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Shit for Vettle. Yay for Ferrari.

Great to see Alonzo winning.

[cjhutch]

Looks like Alonso has this one wrapped up. The Ferrari camp is going to go crazy after this 1-2 finish. Nice to see Massa put up a good early showing after last years incident.

[cjhutch]

I think this was a great place to start the year off. It will give the teams a lot of knowledge for what to expect throughout the year with the increased fuel capacity and how it will impact tire life. So far it looks like the tires are holding up great to the increased weight.

[Machado]

[IDCoconut]

Late, but regarding McLaren's wing:

Rule states aero components cannot be movable by driver. McLaren's case is the aero is staying fixed, but the downforce is altered by creating a stagnant region under the wing: this is similar to how a truck has a stagnant pocket in the truck bed when the tailgate is closed, thus actually making the truck more aerodynamic with the tailgate up than with the tailgate down.

Ingenious way of altering aero that is legal.

Regardless, you've got the fastest driver on that line-up in Ferrari with "the best car" he has ever driven. That says a lot, and Little Miss Sunshine will probably win the WDC.

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Great race, unfortunately had to leave for work before it was over. I agree about the succession of pit stops, it was amazing how fast they were. Stinks for Vettel, he had it won.