Looking to build a drift team around duluth

[MskunkM]

not trying to argue... but this whole debate.... is completely off topic!

[Elbow]

Drifting is not faster, anywhere.

Ever heard of four wheel drift?

NEVER would it be faster to swing your car out, light the tires up, and bounce of rev limiter through a turn. I am having a hard time picturing a drift car beating even a damn IT car in the hairpin at Road Atlanta sideways.

[speedminded]

i can get down with some track racing.

BTW to the post before ("everyones found your slower sideways")
proven fact that driftings been around since RWD its quicker to drift a turn than to brake and turn.

Ask any professional drifter that question and you might be suprised at the answer

[Dietcoke]

i can get down with some track racing.

BTW to the post before ("everyones found your slower sideways")
proven fact that driftings been around since RWD its quicker to drift a turn than to brake and turn.

-1 for you

[Dietcoke]

Drifting is not faster, anywhere.

+1 for you

[soul]

if you got a nice lot, im always down to sling my fatass around

[Elbow]

RWD FTW

its harder to drive with huge flatspots

And btw you can easily set a FWD car up to oversteer without the ebrake, MIGHT want to learn about car setup and driving before you start drifting...de de de

[GIXXERDK]

Drifting is not faster, anywhere.

Ever heard of four wheel drift?

NEVER would it be faster to swing your car out, light the tires up, and bounce of rev limiter through a turn. I am having a hard time picturing a drift car beating even a damn IT car in the hairpin at Road Atlanta sideways.

Who says you have to bounce off the rev limiter?

[Elbow]

Ok, not bouncing off the rev limiter, hell not even smoking tires, drifting is NOT faster lol

[v-empire]

I road race, no drag for me.

i road race too.

i just wonder, i see the point since i started out with kart then road racing, but i never made it to F1 or WRC so i cant brag about anything.. but all my road race friends are always sitting around whining about other forms of racing being pointless, drinking beer and spending money on suspension parts that dont make them any faster...

while drifters get groupies

i say we love motorsports as a whole or we are just groupies.

[GIXXERDK]

Ok, not bouncing off the rev limiter, hell not even smoking tires, drifting is NOT faster lol

Dont just claim something if you cant back it up with resources, give me an explanation.

[MskunkM]

And btw you can easily set a FWD car up to oversteer without the ebrake, MIGHT want to learn about car setup and driving before you start drifting...de de de

i dont know how you got so ****ing riled up over a mistake i made! **** man calm down its the internet and i admitted my wrongs so ****ing calm yourself.

BESIDES this was tottaly dragging the original topic off...

either your into drifting or not if you just wanna piss people off and start up off topic discussions make your own thread

[MskunkM]

i road race too.

i just wonder, i see the point since i started out with kart then road racing, but i never made it to F1 or WRC so i cant brag about anything.. but all my road race friends are always sitting around whining about other forms of racing being pointless, drinking beer and spending money on suspension parts that dont make them any faster...

while drifters get groupies

i say we love motorsports as a whole or we are just groupies.

WISE WORDS THANK YOU! +1 4 u

[soul]

if you got a nice lot, im always down to sling my fatass around

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[MskunkM]

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U = PMed

[down_shift]

this thread is retarded. if you want to meet other drift people GO TO AN EVENT.



FAIL

[SiRed94]

just because you are drifting doesn't necessarily mean you are baking the tires at maximum angle around a corner... that is just for show... I know for a fact that I can drift faster through some corners than gripping... I read something about this a while back in an article about Grip vs. Drift that I wish I could find... it was basically talking about the G's on the front tires and how its less when drifting than while gripping so ultimately you could go faster while drifting without understeer.... and it had something to do with the angle of the car and the momentum at that angle plus the force of the rear wheels at that angle... I dunno tho... I'm just gunna keep doing what I do...

[Elbow]

Ok, first, not ALL road racers think every other form of motorsport sucks. I used to be a HUGE drift fan, had my 240, all that, lol. Even when I got my Miata I wanted to drift. I have respect for it, it's cool, I go watch, etc. I don't really like the wannabe drift crowd with all the JDM crap and talk like they drift, and get out there and totally SUCK.

Road racers do buy engine mods too, suspension is big yes, but you have to have some power as well lol.

Some resources on why drifting would be slower, not sure about where to find a RESOURCE, but you think the cars running that section at drift Atlanta are faster sliding then regular driving? Ever noticed when a car loses his drift and drives normal on the sliding guys ass before initiating another drift? In say rally, small tight u-turns and such obviously would be quicker sliding, some tight mountain roads maybe.

If drifting was FASTER, why the hell do all race cars not drift? DRIFTING is more about style. Some road race cars do have four wheel drifts in many turns, not totally sideways d0rifto.

MskunkM no worries, I was just saying, i'm not mad or anything. I don't hate drifting like I said.

Now if someone wants to do an experiement, lets get a good drifter, and a good autocross driver at the next drift event. Time the drifter, then the autocrosser, I can bet some big money who will win.

Not trying to be a ****, just saying drifting is not FASTER. Stylish and all yes, good car control yes, but not the fastest way around a race track.

[MskunkM]

Ok, first, not ALL road racers think every other form of motorsport sucks. I used to be a HUGE drift fan, had my 240, all that, lol. Even when I got my Miata I wanted to drift. I have respect for it, it's cool, I go watch, etc. I don't really like the wannabe drift crowd with all the JDM crap and talk like they drift, and get out there and totally SUCK.

Road racers do buy engine mods too, suspension is big yes, but you have to have some power as well lol.

Some resources on why drifting would be slower, not sure about where to find a RESOURCE, but you think the cars running that section at drift Atlanta are faster sliding then regular driving? Ever noticed when a car loses his drift and drives normal on the sliding guys ass before initiating another drift? In say rally, small tight u-turns and such obviously would be quicker sliding, some tight mountain roads maybe.

If drifting was FASTER, why the hell do all race cars not drift? DRIFTING is more about style. Some road race cars do have four wheel drifts in many turns, not totally sideways d0rifto.

MskunkM no worries, I was just saying, i'm not mad or anything. I don't hate drifting like I said.

Now if someone wants to do an experiement, lets get a good drifter, and a good autocross driver at the next drift event. Time the drifter, then the autocrosser, I can bet some big money who will win.

Not trying to be a ****, just saying drifting is not FASTER. Stylish and all yes, good car control yes, but not the fastest way around a race track.

agreed. there are many forms of drift as you said some faster some more about style... im about style, speed i love, but i guess its the artist in me that finds controlled chaos exillerating as well as visially stimulating.
im not saying im the best **** im still rolling stock but i am an excelent driver and im buildng this team so i may learn so everyone can learn as a TEAM should.

blood sweat and tires....

[Roadster]

agreed. there are many forms of drift as you said some faster some more about style... im about style, speed i love, but i guess its the artist in me that finds controlled chaos exillerating as well as visially stimulating.
im not saying im the best **** im still rolling stock but i am an excelent driver and im buildng this team so i may learn so everyone can learn as a TEAM should.

blood sweat and tires....

Lol @ you, Rainman.

[87z31]

im interested have a 240 my self

[redrumracer]

only in certain situations would drifting a turn be faster. not all and not many but a very limited few.

[300zx]

I PM'd you MskunkM.

[MskunkM]

im interested have a 240 my self

PM me

[yudalicious]

LOL. So people still believe drifting is faster in some cars and/or tight corners? What is this, 2004? This is why I hate drifting and drifters. 90% of the people involved are certified idiots, you can stamp that. Btw, it's NEVER faster on a high grip surface, which is just about all the surfaces you "drifters" will run into.

[Night Ridaz]

im down

[Echonova]

[95alty]

LOL. So people still believe drifting is faster in some cars and/or tight corners? What is this, 2004? This is why I hate drifting and drifters. 90% of the people involved are certified idiots, you can stamp that. Btw, it's NEVER faster on a high grip surface, which is just about all the surfaces you "drifters" will run into.

Who are you?

[MskunkM]

im down

PM me

[MskunkM]

Who are you?

was that an insult or were you asking him that question.... because either way... that debate has been over for weel over a day now...

[95alty]

him....

[OhMyGodfather]

ok look

it depends on the road surface

it depends on the speed

it depends on the radius of the turn

in some cases drifting is faster

in other cases gripping is faster


EDIT: and if you want a more diverse team of good drifters...you better hit up Austin from Simply German, Jamie from CCR, and my buddy todd who drifts a Z, other than that, the other good drivers rock 240s...its just how it is when you are in grassroots drifting, take the best application, take the best motor, biggest aftermarket then go drift..its the most simple way and the cheapest

[K24cb7coupe]

ok look

it depends on the road surface

it depends on the speed

it depends on the radius of the turn

in some cases drifting is faster

in other cases gripping is faster


EDIT: and if you want a more diverse team of good drifters...you better hit up Austin from Simply German, Jamie from CCR, and my buddy todd who drifts a Z, other than that, the other good drivers rock 240s...its just how it is when you are in grassroots drifting, take the best application, take the best motor, biggest aftermarket then go drift..its the most simple way and the cheapest

AMEN!

[green91]

I think my yoda would do well, ive got TRD limited slip, v6, k&n FIPK intake etc.

[dynoman14]

Where would the practices be held, and what kind of tires do you have available? Size? I have a couple RWD cars that would do the job. What sanctioning body / division would you look to compete in?
Thanks,
DM14

[Elbow]

ok look

it depends on the road surface

it depends on the speed

it depends on the radius of the turn

in some cases drifting is faster

in other cases gripping is faster


EDIT: and if you want a more diverse team of good drifters...you better hit up Austin from Simply German, Jamie from CCR, and my buddy todd who drifts a Z, other than that, the other good drivers rock 240s...its just how it is when you are in grassroots drifting, take the best application, take the best motor, biggest aftermarket then go drift..its the most simple way and the cheapest

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[SiRed94]

uhm racers usually don't drift because they have to conserve tires....

[Night Ridaz]

true unless your able to get used tires free from where u work like me

[Elbow]

uhm racers usually don't drift because they have to conserve tires....

Well why don't you EVER see them drift? Not even time attack. Explain, where do you see it used for fast laps?

[Echonova]

Well why don't you EVER see them drift? Not even time attack. Explain, where do you see it used for fast laps?

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