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    You must have never been to a drifting competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy
    You must have never been to a drifting competition.
    I've seen it at Gateway International Raceway at a midnight madness drag race event. They had a seperate area set up for a professional drifting demonstration. Someone put their 240 into a concrete barrier wall which was extremely amusing, but honestly I've never been a fan of figure skating so it's not something I really seek out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Fast4Radar
    I've seen it at Gateway International Raceway at a midnight madness drag race event. They had a seperate area set up for a professional drifting demonstration. Someone put their 240 into a concrete barrier wall which was extremely amusing, but honestly I've never been a fan of figure skating so it's not something I really seek out.

    Who was the "professional"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy
    Who was the "professional"?
    Not sure - it wasn't something any Joe Blow who was there could bring their car into. I do, however, want to retract the professional comment since professional and drifting shouldn't really be used together. Enough about JDM figure skating weaksauce. I have no clue what this has to do with NASCAR:

    What happened to real stock car racing and what really contributed to the deterioration of NASCAR that has brought it to the state it's in now? Am I the only person left who would like to see real stock car racing instead of this rubbish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Fast4Radar
    Not sure - it wasn't something any Joe Blow who was there could bring their car into. I do, however, want to retract the professional comment since professional and drifting shouldn't really be used together. Enough about JDM figure skating weaksauce. I have no clue what this has to do with NASCAR:

    What happened to real stock car racing and what really contributed to the deterioration of NASCAR that has brought it to the state it's in now? Am I the only person left who would like to see real stock car racing instead of this rubbish?
    Let me explain what it has to do with drifting, sweetheart. I was making a correlation between NASCAR and drifting in that ALSO in drifting do people feel that they can change the rules on a whim.

    I'm not sure how many people on this forum care about stock car racing...period. I have never seen anyone else post about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Fast4Radar
    I do, however, want to retract the professional comment since professional and drifting shouldn't really be used together. Enough about JDM figure skating weaksauce. I have no clue what this has to do with NASCAR:
    What do you refer to dirt track racing as? What do you think Stock car was back in the day on the beaches of Daytona? You think either was or is "grip" driving? Drifting is simply a differant form of the same thing.


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    x2,nascar was at its best when dale was racing,when he died i quit watching it
    Dale commited suicide. He refused to use safety equipment any more advanced then said STOCK CAR from 40+ years ago. Since the invention of the Hans device in 1991 there has not been a single neck or head injury with a driver equipped with one...you were lucky to see him even using the harness By 1998 9/10 Nascar drivers still hadn't even heard of the Hans device, 7-8 years LATER! Then the Hutchens device or equivalent wasn't mandated until 2001. How many Nascar drivers died from 1991-2001 from neck and head injuries?

    Much like their 1964-1972 General Motors suspension they don't adapt to change unless its a direct monetary benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    What do you refer to dirt track racing as? What do you think Stock car was back in the day on the beaches of Daytona? You think either was or is "grip" driving? Drifting is simply a differant form of the same thing.


    Racing is all about getting from point A to point B the fastest. In racing, the person who gets to point B first wins. Some sliding occurs, but it is in no way the focus of the competition.

    In drifting, it is still about getting from point A to point B, while looking better than the other guy (oftentimes carrying much less speed than a person going for grip). Position at the end of the race does not determine who actually wins, some judge does. I am not saying that drifters are lame, I am just saying drifting is NOT racing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454


    Racing is all about getting from point A to point B the fastest. In racing, the person who gets to point B first wins. Some sliding occurs, but it is in no way the focus of the competition.

    In drifting, it is still about getting from point A to point B, while looking better than the other guy (oftentimes carrying much less speed than a person going for grip). Position at the end of the race does not determine who actually wins, some judge does. I am not saying that drifters are lame, I am just saying drifting is NOT racing.
    Some sliding occurs? Have you ever seen a dirt track race? Have you ever driven on a dirt track? For the most part the one with the best form and biggest balls wins...not much unlike drifting. Both Racing and Drifting are competitions, whether it's competing to a finish line or how you get there either way it's still a competition.

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