The Ultimate Sleeper

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4.1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda <----- i'll love to see this do a slalom test at over 50 mph. <--- I'd like to see another 1970 model car do much better.

5. 1970 Dodge T/A Challanger <------i'll love to see this do a slalom test at over 50 mph. <--- I'd like to see another 1970 model car do much better.

1970 porsche 911 T maybe

[DieselNuts]

like i said before, if maybe there wasnt so much sand in your vagina, stop riding nutz and yes you said my car comes with 275 stock
all i am pointing out is just not a sleeper and why would i race a car with a roll cage and two big ass rear tires in the streets
MR. Nutrider

I am defending my own arguement, therefore, the only nuts I would be able to ride are my own...I said MY car (Cobra) comes with 275 tires stock. You might think 295s are "big ass tires" because you are used to seeing those little bicycle tires on your weak ass honda. The fuking roll cage is tucked and like I said before:

If you pulled up next to it at a stoplight, you wouldnt be able to spot it by the time you your ass waxed...

Learn to fuking read

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ooooohhhhh weak ass honda is that a call out i assume and who ever said i still own a honda

[DieselNuts]

please, show me where the roll cage is:

[DieselNuts]

ooooohhhhh weak ass honda is that a call out i assume and who ever said i still own a honda

your profile. I wouldnt waste my gas on you...not even a spray fart

[WHT_EP3]

please, show me where the roll cage is:

how do i know if this picture includes the roll cage or not where are the seats on this picture

[DieselNuts]

I didnt ask you to point out the fuking seats douche, I said point out the roll cage. Its there...

[EJ25RUN]

#1 First of all calm down, it's a car forum, you bring up something people disagree with then we discuss.

#2 This is your exact post.

name TWO american cars that were built by Americans and in America
i only talk when i am confident on what i am saying.

To me that means a car built in the US. You never said racing cars had nothing to do with it.

Your comments.

2. 1964-1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe <----they sold this to the public too right.

If you could prove to Shelby that you could be competitive with the car, he would have. To add to that, after he was given the task of the 1966 MKii GT40 project, the 6 original Daytonas were just let to sit and if you wanted one....they WOULD SELL IT TO YOU!

3. 1967 Ford GT40 MKIV (Carrol Shelby's 100% American GT40)<---they sold that to the public also .

75% of GT40 were given to privateers and had factory for parts. STREET LEGAL!

4.1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda <----- i'll love to see this do a slalom test at over 50 mph.

You are really gonna compare a car from 1970 to one from today? Because yes, in 1970 this car would compare well with a European or Japanese car.

5. 1970 Dodge T/A Challanger <------i'll love to see this do a slalom test at over 50 mph.

Same as above

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6. All of Jim Hall's Chaparral cars Jim Hall's those are all over buford highway right, they sold this to the public too right.[quote]

Granted Jim Hall didn't sell these but still, American Engineering that won in Europe.

7. 1999 Mustang Cobra R <---- 2000

Yes 2000 , wanna check me on the 93 and 95 car too?

9. 1996 - 2008 Dodge Viper GTS and GTS-R comp coupe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpEaMr4Yq48
they talk about the handling all through this video

I have never been a fan of the ZB Viper. But Jeremy Clarkson is not the best source for an opinion. Remember he said the McLaren F1 is one of the worst cars he's driven.

But the 1992-2002
SR was one of the best Handling American cars of all time. With Oreca and Zakspeed the car took wins class wins in the Sebring 12 and Le Mans 24 and overall wins in the Daytona 24 and Nurburgring 24 hour.

Plus both vipers pull sub 1.00G in a skidpad....there are racecars that cant do that.

14. Ford Mustand FR500C <---- never heard of a ford mustand i dont think that option came stock either.

Thats a Customer race program so yeah....its stock.

15. Saleen Mustang SR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NZpS_gndDE

Saleen SR was made in the mid 90's and is based on a SN-95 platform so a 05+ Mustang doesn't relate.

19. Shadow Racing Cars <----- i see these all the time in the streets

You never said street car in your post

20. Cadillac LMP <----yeah i think this would fail an emission test

You never said street car in your post

Last

HOW DO YOU KNOW MY NAME?

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Berkmar buddy(Mr. Mannings class)
im done.. to me there is nothing else to argue about and yeah the nova is no sleeper in the car enthusiasts eye IMO

[EJ25RUN]

Berkmar buddy

wiill?

[xXThat GuyXx]

awesome.

[MistaCee]

If you look back, I already said that I was wrong about that post...

Oh ok ok

[WannabeSpecV]

all i have to say... DAMN... definately a nice sleeper

[aneel]

very nice.. but i wouldnt consider it the "ULTIMATE SLEEPER"... if it had a paintjob and some wheels it would look just like another muscle car... An analogy: all these hondas that are primered with steelies running 240+whp

although i can see that the owner is going for the sleeper look...

i would consider it an unfinished monsteR.. not a sleeper

aneeL

[WHT_EP3]

very nice.. but i wouldnt consider it the "ULTIMATE SLEEPER"... if it had a paintjob and some wheels it would look just like another muscle car... An analogy: all these hondas that are primered with steelies running 240+whp

i would consider it an unfinished monsteR.. not a sleeper

aneeL

AMEN to that.
that car looks like the owner ran out of money to complete the body work so he just did the engine work

[On_Her_Face]

Berkmar buddy(Mr. Mannings class)
im done.. to me there is nothing else to argue about and yeah the nova is no sleeper in the car enthusiasts eye IMO

LMFAO, compare it to other novas with that amount of horsepower. then say it's not a sleeper.

[Sport1.3]

1970 porsche 911 T maybe

you mean the 123hp base model 1970's (69-71') 911T. They were quite possibly the most off ballanced 911 to date...they handle like a shopping cart. Now if you really wanna use an early 70's porsche as a good example. The 914/6 would have been a much better or even the 908 or 917 (since we're using race cars as example as well)