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    Quote Originally Posted by Batlground
    It doesn't matter how much it cost. If you put a Z06 on the same tires that are on the GTR it would run faster lap times than the GTR
    No it wouldn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackshine007
    100k for the uber-vette, I think possibly 90k for the V spec.
    No. 124K before dealer markup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nissan Sean
    the GTR puts power down to the ground tentimes better than the corvette.i dont care i its the zr1 or what. with the vspec coming out, Nissan is aiming at breaking the ring record.
    Right. 98% of the people in this world don't have the capability to take a car to its limit and these chassis and drivetrain electronic aids help average drivers look like better then they really are. I was at Road Atlanta and it felt to easy in my STI. I wanted a twitchy car to really drive the car. But that AWD kept me safe and i felt like i had a more likely chance of hitting the mailbox than the wall on turn 10. The simple fact is a Corvette is more of what a raw sports car is. The GT-R is proof that driving aids will make an average driver into a great driver.

    Why do you think Ayrton Senna hated all driving aids?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nissan Sean
    chevy can suck it.
    You had a chance, but you proved once again your an idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magnus213
    I am confident that nothing but good things can come from this.
    Until the new CAFE regulations hit and it will be 1972 again where hp disappeared.

    Quote Originally Posted by cdhtang
    americans car manufactures/tuners to bring their cars to taksuba, not only to Nurburgring, see what's their lap time.
    That's a split case. Nurburgring has a way of simulating every kind of driving environment imaginable. Tsukuba is a flat 1.3 mile circuit best suited for full out race cars with almost no ground clearance. Why do you think a modern F1 car cant go through the Karussel? It's ok as a rough comparison but you don't need to go to japan what you can accomplish at Miller Motorsport Park. No other circuit in the world comes close to the "Ring. Not at that many corners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    IMO its 2 totally different classes of cars.
    1. I mean its like comparing a C6 z06 to a Ferrari or Porsche.
    2. The GTR is the new Jap SUpercar, the Vette, is , well, still a VETTE. Brute power, great handling, american sports car.
    3. The people buying vettes IMO wont be looking at GTRs and vice versa.
    4. They are two totally different crowds and buyers.
    5. Id personally take the GTR cause i think it looks better.
    Hitting your points in order.

    1. You can compare them. They have been going against each other for 50 years.

    2. GTR. The first REAL attempt from Japan at making a WORLD CLASS SUPERCAR!.
    Vette = Americas sports cars that was brought up from an upside down bathtub to be a race winning GT car. (Starting in 1960 to todays P&M Cars) Even to the rest of the world, they know what a Vette is because it is our sports car and it will always be. I always say anyone that considers the Vette and Shelby Cobra a Muscle car is wrong.

    3&4. You would think, but lets face it, Most of the people that can afford those cars, can't appreciate them like us and just see them as status symbols. Look at the Rappers putting 20" rims on Ferraris. They just don't get it, but because of them........Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Maserati are very profitable and are selling more cars then they have ever before. April 08 finished with 5/31 major auto manu having a succesful month (Subaru, Mazda, Nissan, Mini, and Jaguar cause of the XF selling more than all the other models combined.) Companies like Audi, Nissan, Chevy, Ford (GT), BMW (yet to come) and other realizing that there is a definete market for high end cars and approving production of these "supercars". Either way, we win in the end because even if they become used, we have a chance to own a great car.

    5. Me too, but cause it's just that great of a car.

    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    im gonna put my money on the gtr..

    what tires does the zr1 use? b/c the gtr uses the run flats.. did they use those on the ring?

    Rumor says a "zr1" has been seen at the track going around in "about 7:40", these claims are set by track bystanders and have the same value as Spanish F1 journalism. No pix nor confirmed stats exist yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    so if the gtr does beat the zr1, its back to the 911...for the gtr haters...
    It irritates me when people who don't understand things outside of the sports compact scene start comparing cars like the Vette, GTR, and 911.
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