sub problem and shop advice

[redgst97]

I think American Radio in Cumming, GA is a great place to go.
I am, however, a bit biased, as I work there.
678-455-3201

[onebadgt]

I think American Radio in Cumming, GA is a great place to go.
I am, however, a bit biased, as I work there.
678-455-3201

im sure they are good but holy price! they said to wire me 0ga power wire and ground wire would be $75 and the wire would be $150! you can get good 0ga wiring kits for $35-$45 so that would make instalation of 2 wires $175 ouch.

[Scott P]

im sure they are good but holy price! they said to wire me 0ga power wire and ground wire would be $75 and the wire would be $150! you can get good 0ga wiring kits for $35-$45 so that would make instalation of 2 wires $175 ouch.

First you can not get anything resembling a decent 0ga amp kit anywere for under a 100, and most decent 0ga kits are going to be in the 175-200 range for just the wire. And before anyone gets the bright idea to chime in here let me dispel the myths you are basing your suggestions on. Quality wire is about stand count, copper (or silver) purity, agu rating, and pliablity.

This kits you are talking about are low on stand count, effectively making them a 4 ga kit with a thick jacket. Furthermore they use copper clad aluminum (aka CCA) which at best is maybe (and i stress that word) 75% efficient in relation to pure copper (or silver). Factor those 2 things in together and you now have a glorified 6 ga wire in a 0ga costume. But you saved a few bucks. Congratulations. Oh and in the mean time that wire is crap when it comes to pliability ( being that it isn't all that flexible) and thus is a huge pain in the ass to run through a car. At which point, guess what, you saves a few dollars for wire, but your install costs are going to go up.

Furthermore installers are kinda like doctors in a sense. YOu can find a cheap docor that barely made it through med school and can handle diagnosing the common cold; and do so in the name of cheaper medical bills. But to find a doctor that was top of their class and one of the best in the country, is going to cost more, because that kind of knowledge always cost more.

I have seen this complaint around for too long now and bit my tongue, but no more. There are a handful of goodd shops in the atl area and a shitton of hack shops. How do I know this? I have onlly been in this town now for six months and already I am seeing other shops bring me cars they can't do or fix, I get calls on how to install this and that b/c they can't figure it out. And worst of all I have to console their dissatisfied customers when their install goes to crap or the install causes stuff to dies prematurely.

Let me let ya'll in on a little secret: you get what your pay for. Meaning you can go cheap now and be paying for it again soon, or you could just do it right the first time.

Finally I am going to say this about American Radio: John isn;t just anybody when it comes to car audio, the man has more world championships that most of you have had girlfriends, he has built CES demo cars, magazine feteaured cars, amd so many custom fabricated cars that don't get the attention they deserve. And then there is myself: when the postion at American Radio opened up, it wasn't a help wanted sign or an ad in the local paper for an installer. It was a nationwide search. I moved here from memphis where I was handling a top 100 ranked shop's custom projects, doing tech support for sevearl major corporations, and managing the stores day to day operations. I have built show cars for Memphis, JL, Concept, NFL, NBA, MLB, PGA, and a litany of actors and musicians. Between the two of us there is pretty much nothing we haven't done, or can't do.

All that was said to say this: does that sound like we are tooting are horn? It should b/c we are. I have no doubt we run the best shop in Forsyth Co, and I would be willing to go toe to toe with any other shop in the greater Atl area. SO the next time you or anyone else complains about how a shop is overpriced, you may want to think twice; b/c quality costs something too. . . . .