Minimum wage

[Outphase]

I used to live in Cali...and you can't live off of $8/hr...

[SLow_POke]

I used to live in Cali...and you can't live off of $8/hr...

i also lived in cali and no you can not live of that heck u cant live out of 10 hr. and if you do its gotta be paying less then 500 a month in rent.

now out here in GA you can live off of 10 hour a lil tight but can make it . and 8 dollar an hour increase in minimum wage will help out people . and for the percon who said it wont be noticeable, buddy are you wrong . when i first started working back in cali @6.25 hr i got a $2 increase after been gired full time. and boy was it noticeable

[tony]

i also lived in cali and no you can not live of that heck u cant live out of 10 hr. and if you do its gotta be paying less then 500 a month in rent.

now out here in GA you can live off of 10 hour a lil tight but can make it . and 8 dollar an hour increase in minimum wage will help out people . and for the percon who said it wont be noticeable, buddy are you wrong . when i first started working back in cali @6.25 hr i got a $2 increase after been gired full time. and boy was it noticeable

2 things will happen, some minimum wage earners will lose their jobs because the manager can no longer afford to keep everyone on payroll or prices will inflate to offset the higher wages which puts you back where you started because now $8.00 an hour has the same buying power that $6.00 an hour once had. This exact subject is why you have to pay almost $8 for a happy meal where I grew up after they raised the minimum wage $2.

[Danny]

2 things will happen, some minimum wage earners will lose their jobs because the manager can no longer afford to keep everyone on payroll or prices will inflate to offset the higher wages which puts you back where you started because now $8.00 an hour has the same buying power that $6.00 an hour once had. This exact subject is why you have to pay almost $8 for a happy meal where I grew up after they raised the minimum wage $2.

TOny, you are one of the few people on here i agree with on a regular basis.

Now, ask yourself this, am I extreme to say that min wage is somthing we shouldnt have? (food for thought)

And to the guy saying that a min wage raise wouldnt effect you because you make 15$ an hour. well first off, we didnt ask how much you make, thats personal information that shouldnt be thrown around with out thinking first. And its foolish to think just because you make 15$ an hour that a min wage increase of the said magnitude would not effect you.

[iloveboost]

Good points Danny and Tony.

japan4racing, you're saying $50 won't make much of a difference? A free tank of gas per week wouldn't make a difference to someone barely making $5.15 an hour? You're sadly mistaken.

But again, in the end, it's only going to affect consumers and the uneducated.

People always complain about the rich, upper class people always having it easy when it comes to tax breaks, etc but the fact is the rich, upper class people are more educated when it comes to their money and they find ways to keep track of their money. I used to work in banking and I saw it all the time. The rich stay rich because they take the initiative to educate themselves on how things work. The poor and middle class stay where they are because they'd rather complain about the government and how unfair everything is.

But anyways, back to the topic at hand... all the minimum wagers need to go apply themselves. People choose to settle for $5.15 an hour. This is the land of opportunity for anyone that truely works for it.

[Danny]

japan4racing, you're saying $50 won't make much of a difference? A free tank of gas per week wouldn't make a difference to someone barely making $5.15 an hour? You're sadly mistaken.
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Truth! 50$ a week should make a difference at almost any pay level (with in reason). 50 x 52 = 2600$ per year. at the IRS rate of 45cents a mile you could drive your car almost 5800 aditional miles per year. Thats about 40% of the average miles a car is driven in one year. Thats HUGE in my book.

But again, in the end, it's only going to affect consumers and the uneducated.

we are all consumers. thus effecting EVERYONE. (not saying Iloveboost disagrees)

People always complain about the rich, upper class people always having it easy when it comes to tax breaks, etc but the fact is the rich, upper class people are more educated when it comes to their money and they find ways to keep track of their money. I used to work in banking and I saw it all the time. The rich stay rich because they take the initiative to educate themselves on how things work. The poor and middle class stay where they are because they'd rather complain about the government and how unfair everything is.

'Poor' and 'Rich' are realitive terms that personally I try not to use. But, I understand what you mean with this statement. Its the democrats that are pushing for a more socialistic goverment and in the process claim the "rich" are not taxed enough. YET, the harder I work (and anyone else in this great country) the more taxes I have to pay, and when I say "more" I am refering to a higher precentage. So if you think about it, we are punished for working hard and striving for a bigger paycheck. Im sorry, but thats not right in any way, shape or form. This is the reason I vote "fair tax plan" and get rid of the IRS.

But anyways, back to the topic at hand... all the minimum wagers need to go apply themselves. People choose to settle for $5.15 an hour. This is the land of opportunity for anyone that truely works for it.

Im not extreme enough to say they are not applying themselfs. But i agree, the vast majority of people work at or around min wage are not giving 110% effort into "climbing the corprate latter." I still think min wage is unnecessary.

But you hit the nail on the head: "the land of opportunity"

[civic95]

I don't think I've talked to anyone that makes minimum wage since high school. Hell even mcdonalds pays more then that.

[Julio]

People always complain about the rich, upper class people always having it easy when it comes to tax breaks, etc but the fact is the rich, upper class people are more educated when it comes to their money and they find ways to keep track of their money. I used to work in banking and I saw it all the time. The rich stay rich because they take the initiative to educate themselves on how things work. The poor and middle class stay where they are because they'd rather complain about the government and how unfair everything is.

Not always true........ Would sound better if you said : " In Most cases "

The fact is : When you are rich.. Is easier to become richer.. Now.... how hard is it for a Poor person to become rich? Not easy... Is all about the situation you are in or put in and of course hard work.

Anyways, back on topic.. Im all for the increase. 50 bucks a week is ALOT when you dont have it.. thats 200 bucks a month extra!!! More food on your table/ health insurance/ ALOT more can be done with that 200 bucks....

[iloveboost]

True. I exaggerated in stating everyone, but as you said, it would be safe to assume the vast majority of people.

Also, it is harder for the lower class people to get ahead financially, but all it takes is a will to work for it. Something a lot of lower and middle class America lacks.

Life is what you make of it, whether you're banking $5.15 an hour and loving life or deep in 6 figures and in debt up to your ears.

[{X}Echo419]

Not always true........ Would sound better if you said : " In Most cases "

The fact is : When you are rich.. Is easier to become richer.. Now.... how hard is it for a Poor person to become rich? Not easy... Is all about the situation you are in or put in and of course hard work.

tru. but it's not the gov't responsibility to try and level the playing field and make everything equal. that's called Communism(I'm not calling you a communist).

[japan4racing]

and for the percon who said it wont be noticeable, buddy are you wrong . when i first started working back in cali @6.25 hr i got a $2 increase after been gired full time. and boy was it noticeable

it would work out to $70 more a week before taxes and other deductions you can look at losing about 30% of that shit through taxes and deductions....wow...a $49 dollar raise a week. that isnt noticeable in my opinion. for $49 i can almost fill up the gas tank on my truck. even when you make as little money as 5.15/hr that shit is not too noiceable.

im just glad it does not effect me..i make over $20 an hour so i am not worried about this minimum wage shit. its nice that it might get raised...and it does need to get raised. but i still beleive that its not gonna make a difference....unless of course you think $49 a week is good. i would not even miss $49 if it was taken from my check...i get raped anyways

[{X}Echo419]

it would work out to $70 more a week before taxes and other deductions you can look at losing about 30% of that shit through taxes and deductions....wow...a $49 dollar raise a week. that isnt noticeable in my opinion. for $49 i can almost fill up the gas tank on my truck. even when you make as little money as 5.15/hr that shit is not too noiceable.

im just glad it does not effect me..i make over $20 an hour so i am not worried about this minimum wage shit. its nice that it might get raised...and it does need to get raised. but i still beleive that its not gonna make a difference....unless of course you think $49 a week is good. i would not even miss $49 if it was taken from my check...i get raped anyways

you're right that's hardly noticable. but to a Company with(hypathetically) that employees 100 people that would be $7K. and guess who gets to pay for it. you and me the consumer. I don't think most people understand it. same thing with taxes. if the gov't raises the tax on a item does the company just say, "F it. we'll take th e hit."? no, they'lll raise the price to make up the loss. beside who here knows anyone that makes minimum wage? besides some kid in highschool working @ Arby's?
all raising the MW will do is make things that much more expensive for you and me.