Minimum wage

[iloveboost]

Good points Danny and Tony.

japan4racing, you're saying $50 won't make much of a difference? A free tank of gas per week wouldn't make a difference to someone barely making $5.15 an hour? You're sadly mistaken.

But again, in the end, it's only going to affect consumers and the uneducated.

People always complain about the rich, upper class people always having it easy when it comes to tax breaks, etc but the fact is the rich, upper class people are more educated when it comes to their money and they find ways to keep track of their money. I used to work in banking and I saw it all the time. The rich stay rich because they take the initiative to educate themselves on how things work. The poor and middle class stay where they are because they'd rather complain about the government and how unfair everything is.

But anyways, back to the topic at hand... all the minimum wagers need to go apply themselves. People choose to settle for $5.15 an hour. This is the land of opportunity for anyone that truely works for it.

[Danny]

japan4racing, you're saying $50 won't make much of a difference? A free tank of gas per week wouldn't make a difference to someone barely making $5.15 an hour? You're sadly mistaken.
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Truth! 50$ a week should make a difference at almost any pay level (with in reason). 50 x 52 = 2600$ per year. at the IRS rate of 45cents a mile you could drive your car almost 5800 aditional miles per year. Thats about 40% of the average miles a car is driven in one year. Thats HUGE in my book.

But again, in the end, it's only going to affect consumers and the uneducated.

we are all consumers. thus effecting EVERYONE. (not saying Iloveboost disagrees)

People always complain about the rich, upper class people always having it easy when it comes to tax breaks, etc but the fact is the rich, upper class people are more educated when it comes to their money and they find ways to keep track of their money. I used to work in banking and I saw it all the time. The rich stay rich because they take the initiative to educate themselves on how things work. The poor and middle class stay where they are because they'd rather complain about the government and how unfair everything is.

'Poor' and 'Rich' are realitive terms that personally I try not to use. But, I understand what you mean with this statement. Its the democrats that are pushing for a more socialistic goverment and in the process claim the "rich" are not taxed enough. YET, the harder I work (and anyone else in this great country) the more taxes I have to pay, and when I say "more" I am refering to a higher precentage. So if you think about it, we are punished for working hard and striving for a bigger paycheck. Im sorry, but thats not right in any way, shape or form. This is the reason I vote "fair tax plan" and get rid of the IRS.

But anyways, back to the topic at hand... all the minimum wagers need to go apply themselves. People choose to settle for $5.15 an hour. This is the land of opportunity for anyone that truely works for it.

Im not extreme enough to say they are not applying themselfs. But i agree, the vast majority of people work at or around min wage are not giving 110% effort into "climbing the corprate latter." I still think min wage is unnecessary.

But you hit the nail on the head: "the land of opportunity"

[civic95]

I don't think I've talked to anyone that makes minimum wage since high school. Hell even mcdonalds pays more then that.

[iloveboost]

I don't think I've talked to anyone that makes minimum wage since high school. Hell even mcdonalds pays more then that.

Which is why I say most people that are making minimum wage are not applying themselves fully.

When I say poor and rich people, I mean lower class and upper class.

[Julio]

People always complain about the rich, upper class people always having it easy when it comes to tax breaks, etc but the fact is the rich, upper class people are more educated when it comes to their money and they find ways to keep track of their money. I used to work in banking and I saw it all the time. The rich stay rich because they take the initiative to educate themselves on how things work. The poor and middle class stay where they are because they'd rather complain about the government and how unfair everything is.

Not always true........ Would sound better if you said : " In Most cases "

The fact is : When you are rich.. Is easier to become richer.. Now.... how hard is it for a Poor person to become rich? Not easy... Is all about the situation you are in or put in and of course hard work.

Anyways, back on topic.. Im all for the increase. 50 bucks a week is ALOT when you dont have it.. thats 200 bucks a month extra!!! More food on your table/ health insurance/ ALOT more can be done with that 200 bucks....

[iloveboost]

True. I exaggerated in stating everyone, but as you said, it would be safe to assume the vast majority of people.

Also, it is harder for the lower class people to get ahead financially, but all it takes is a will to work for it. Something a lot of lower and middle class America lacks.

Life is what you make of it, whether you're banking $5.15 an hour and loving life or deep in 6 figures and in debt up to your ears.

[{X}Echo419]

Not always true........ Would sound better if you said : " In Most cases "

The fact is : When you are rich.. Is easier to become richer.. Now.... how hard is it for a Poor person to become rich? Not easy... Is all about the situation you are in or put in and of course hard work.

tru. but it's not the gov't responsibility to try and level the playing field and make everything equal. that's called Communism(I'm not calling you a communist).

[Danny]

tru. but it's not the gov't responsibility to try and level the playing field and make everything equal. that's called Communism(I'm not calling you a communist).

yup. thats where this country is head. Becuase the majority of the people think taxing the upper class more and higher min wage is for the better. Democrats are pushing for this, they encourage people to be classified as middle class or below. This is what you are refering to as "leveling the playing field". Just glad im not the only one seeing it coming.

[Julio]

tru. but it's not the gov't responsibility to try and level the playing field and make everything equal. that's called Communism(I'm not calling you a communist).

Huh? You went to left field with that one.. lol.

I agree with you.. But, what I was trying to say was :

When you already have money, is easier to make more..
When you are poor, is harder to make more money.



On another note.. paying close to 400 a week in taxes BLOWS. FAIR TAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!