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[HvyArms]

I read last night, that 68% of Americans associate "terrorism" with race. But 92%, associate "terrorism" with culture/religion. I was wondering how these stats would fair, in an IA poll. Answer it or die by bombing!!!

[Hulud]

poll?

[candy2082002]

honestly I dont think it would fair well with some......maybe I am wrong

[Ran]

Teh Yousef Smilie:

[HvyArms]

Teh Yousef Smilie:

I'm gonna get you.

[HvyArms]

honestly I dont think it would fair well with some......maybe I am wrong

why is that?

[candy2082002]

why is that?

cause of the ways some react to other threads so yeah nothing against you

[HvyArms]

Someone moved my thread. I'm so meaaaaaaaad

[candy2082002]

Someone moved my thread. I'm so meaaaaaaaad

ohhh they did wow

[HvyArms]

ohhh they did wow

That's hot!

[candy2082002]

Someone moved my thread. I'm so meaaaaaaaad

I didnt know you could move threads sooo yeah learn something new everyday

[{X}Echo419]

I read last night, that 68% of Americans associate "terrorism" with race. But 92%, associate "terrorism" with culture/religion. I was wondering how these stats would fair, in an IA poll. Answer it or die by bombing!!!

most people probally associate terrorism with religon/culture because it's Bred by a particular religon and culture.

[HvyArms]

most people probally associate terrorism with religon/culture because it's Bred by a particular religon and culture.

What culture is that, you think?

[{X}Echo419]

What culture is that, you think?

the facist middle eastern hate america culture.

[HvyArms]

the facist middle eastern hate america culture.

Which country, or do you just mean the entire middle east?

[{X}Echo419]

Which country, or do you just mean the entire middle east?

I woul say 85%+ of the people in the middle east. or at least that's the way the governments(over there) and the media portray it.

[ShooterMcGavin]

don't like the options in the poll...not sure they correspond well with the question you asked...

[SpecV_Scott]

It's unfortunate that the current rash of terrorism has been mainly carried out by radical islamists....becuase the majority of educated middle easterners don't share the same beliefs as the radicals.

The facts are staggering though. 9/11. WTC (the first time). Bali. Spain train station bombings. UK bombings. Bombings/rocket attacks in Sharm El Sheikh. USS Cole. Attempted shoe bombing. Etc.

[HvyArms]

Well, what do you guys think distinguishes a terrorist, from a freedom fighter? Does anyone know much about US Foreign Policy? Do you feel that the US is fighting for freedom and democracy? Is controlled democracy, really democratic?

[{X}Echo419]

It's unfortunate that the current rash of terrorism has been mainly carried out by radical islamists....becuase the majority of educated middle easterners don't share the same beliefs as the radicals.

The facts are staggering though. 9/11. WTC (the first time). Bali. Spain train station bombings. UK bombings. Bombings/rocket attacks in Sharm El Sheikh. USS Cole. Attempted shoe bombing. Etc.

not to mention the other conflicts around the world not involving US. Chechneia(sp) when the terrorists shot all of those school children. it's something like 98% involve muslims.
what I want to know is why the people don't riot in the streets when these terrorists kill innocent people in the name of their religon, but go absolutly ape shit when some dutch guy makes a cartoon with a pic of mohammed. I'd like to hear that 1.

Well, what do you guys think distinguishes a terrorist, from a freedom fighter? Does anyone know much about US Foreign Policy? Do you feel that the US is fighting for freedom and democracy? Is controlled democracy, really democratic?

the difference between freedom fighters and terrorists;
freedom fighters don't shoot childern in the back to get what they want. they don't behead innocent civilions(sp) on tv. they don't shoot women dead when they run out of a burinig building because they don't have their heads cover. freedom fighters don't take plance full of innocent people, women, childern and fly them into buildings killing thousands. they don't blow up subways, train stations, fire rockets randomly into cities, or local cafe's.
That is the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorists.

[Hulud]

the difference between freedom fighters and terrorists;
freedom fighters don't shoot childern in the back to get what they want. they don't shoot women dead when they run out of a burinig building they don't blow up subways, train stations, fire rockets randomly into cities, or local cafe's.
That is the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorists.

so whats the difference between terrorists and evil soldiers?

[{X}Echo419]

so whats the difference between terrorists and evil soldiers?

these "evil soldiers"(who ever they maybe) act out of their own free will against the orders of their commanders and against the oath they took upon entering their branch of service. the terrorists act together as a whole with the same goals. it is their objective to kill innocent people and to make their religon the dominate and only religon on the planet.
unless you're talking about Hilter and the Nazis. then I would say almost nothing except the Nazis wanted to spread facism and the terrorists want to enforce islam on everyone. and the terrorists don't have concentration camps they just behead and blow people up.

[Hulud]

these "evil soldiers"(who ever they maybe) act out of their own free will against the orders of their commanders and against the oath they took upon entering their branch of service. the terrorists act together as a whole with the same goals. it is their objective to kill innocent people and to make their religon the dominate and only religon on the planet.
unless you're talking about Hilter and the Nazis. then I would say almost nothing except the Nazis wanted to spread facism and the terrorists want to enforce islam on everyone. and the terrorists don't have concentration camps they just behead and blow people up.

i see what your saying but honestly your just profiling now, saying terrorists are out to spread "their" religion, im assuming you are meaning islam.

so i will take it mcveigh wasnt a terrorist, since he wasnt trying to spread a religion....

might want to rethink your definition of terrorist

and also you think that the soldiers in vietnam/iraq were NEVER given orders to kill innocent people?

[{X}Echo419]

i see what your saying but honestly your just profiling now, saying terrorists are out to spread "their" religion, im assuming you are meaning islam.

so i will take it mcveigh wasnt a terrorist, since he wasnt trying to spread a religion....

might want to rethink your definition of terrorist

and also you think that the soldiers in vietnam/iraq were NEVER given orders to kill innocent people?

I knew you were going to say this.

you wanna pull out every white guy with a flat top outof line and search him fine with me. just don't search the 60 yr old korean lady and pass the young arab kid with the back pack then say you're just being fair.
and no his goal wasn't religously motivated, he was 1 of those anti gov't wacko guys.

the timothy mcveigh argument is getting old...and weak. that's 1 compared to, I don't know 10,000.
I don't want to wind up on a plane being hijacked by terrorists because you didn't want to "profile". give me a damn break.

I don't know I wasn't in Vietnam. but a guy here at work was and I would like to see you come down here and compare him to a terrorist to his face.

face it, the terrorists are muslim. they want to kill us(that includes you and me) and people like you crying about profiling are making it easier for them to do it.

[Hulud]

I knew you were going to say this.

you wanna pull out every white guy with a flat top outof line and search him fine with me. just don't search the 60 yr old korean lady and pass the young arab kid with the back pack then say you're just being fair.
and no his goal wasn't religously motivated, he was 1 of those anti gov't wacko guys.

im not talking about searching people, im just proving that you are a racist, you dont like muslims

the timothy mcveigh argument is getting old...and weak. that's 1 compared to, I don't know 10,000.
I don't want to wind up on a plane being hijacked by terrorists because you didn't want to "profile". give me a damn break.

again, i never said anything about searching people refer to my last comment

I don't know I wasn't in Vietnam. but a guy here at work was and I would like to see you come down here and compare him to a terrorist to his face.

did i say that all people in vietam were evil? no
it was an honest question that you tried to turn around what i said

face it, the terrorists are muslim. they want to kill us(that includes you and me) and people like you crying about profiling are making it easier for them to do it.

so all terrorists all over the world are muslim and its some secret muslim organization that creates all terrorism?

you're a joke dude

you need to do some research and get facts before you post
here are some well known terrorist organizations, that had nothing to to with islam

Irish Republican Brotherhood
People's Will (russian)
Communist Party of Philippines/New People's Army
National Liberation Army (colombia)
the list goes on...

[The Yousef]

what actually constitutes a Muslim though?

a brown guy with a beard?
a brown guy with a arabic sounding name?

Muslims come from many, many different cultures (black, white, asian, hispanic, etc) it is hard to profile a Muslim at all...

and honestly i don't blame the security officials profiling passengers...i can understand their mentality...i don't like it...but i understand it....

[Hulud]

and honestly i don't blame the security officials profiling passengers...i can understand their mentality...i don't like it...but i understand it....

im still trying to figure out where we got to security checkpoints, cause i was just showing echos obvious biggotry towards muslims

[{X}Echo419]

im not talking about searching people, im just proving that you are a racist, you dont like muslims

you proved nothing. you don't know me pal.

again, i never said anything about searching people refer to my last comment

did i say that all people in vietam were evil? no
it was an honest question that you tried to turn around what i said[/QUOTE]
honest my ass. you're just trying to make US soldiers, sailors and Marines. look like terrorists to excuse the real terrorists. George Soros would be proud of you.

so all terrorists all over the world are muslim and its some secret muslim organization that creates all terrorism?
you're a joke dude

I didn't say that. just the 1's that want to and HAVE attack US and killed thousands. get your head out of the sand

you need to do some research and get facts before you post
here are some well known terrorist organizations, that had nothing to to with islam

Irish Republican Brotherhood
People's Will (russian)
Communist Party of Philippines/New People's Army
National Liberation Army (colombia)
the list goes on...

and when was the last "we" were attacked by any of those orginizations? I'll give you a hint. Never.

so, I want to hear your solution. how would you prevent another terrorist attack on American soil? Lets hear it. then maybe we could get it on CNN or Fox and save the world. waiting....

[The Yousef]

im still trying to figure out where we got to security checkpoints, cause i was just showing echos obvious biggotry towards muslims

i don't know either...but w/e

[{X}Echo419]

what actually constitutes a Muslim though?

a brown guy with a beard?
a brown guy with a arabic sounding name?

Muslims come from many, many different cultures (black, white, asian, hispanic, etc) it is hard to profile a Muslim at all...

and honestly i don't blame the security officials profiling passengers...i can understand their mentality...i don't like it...but i understand it....

^bravo^
you just gotta play the odds here. it's not about hate.

[{X}Echo419]

im still trying to figure out where we got to security checkpoints, cause i was just showing echos obvious biggotry towards muslims

are you kidding me? you brought up profiling! what did you mean? profiling at McDonalds?! dumbass

[Hulud]

you proved nothing. you don't know me pal.

i know enough from your posts

honest my ass. you're just trying to make US soldiers, sailors and Marines. look like terrorists to excuse the real terrorists. George Soros would be proud of you.

theres a reason i put "evil" but you apparently missed it. i dont generalize like you im sorry but both my grandparents fought for this country so it would not make any sense for me to generalize all soldiers. why dont you stop and think outside of your hate filled mind and reason what i typed down.

I didn't say that. just the 1's that want to and HAVE attack US and killed thousands. get your head out of the sand

then say the terrorists attack US you never once said that, you just said terrorists

and when was the last "we" were attacked by any of those orginizations? I'll give you a hint. Never.

so, I want to hear your solution. how would you prevent another terrorist attack on American soil? Lets hear it. then maybe we could get it on CNN or Fox and save the world. waiting....

why would i have a solution to the end of terrorism? i never said i did

[Hulud]

are you kidding me? you brought up profiling! what did you mean? profiling at McDonalds?! dumbass

i was saying YOU are profiling terrorists as muslims
your profiling has nothing to do with security checkpoints

[{X}Echo419]

...then say the terrorists attack US you never once said that, you just said terrorists

....why would i have a solution to the end of terrorism? i never said i did

I think Everyone here knew what was implyed.

did you honestly think I meant ALL terrorists are muslim?

[Hulud]

I think Everyone here knew what was implyed. you obviously missed that or have no other defense.

"commence question dodging!"

defense of what?
i have nothing to dodge either

[{X}Echo419]

defense of what?
i have nothing to dodge either

edit, after reading other thread.

[Hulud]

we're good to go then

[Xan]

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but the terrorists we fight are Muslims. If profiling Muslims at airport security checkpoints prevents a terror attack then by all means do it. I'm not Muslim, but if white males ages 18-40 suddenly went nuts and started blowing up airplanes then I wouldn't hesitate to let them search me if they asked. Noone seems to place any blame on the terrorists anymore. Most of the problems people have with the current US foreign policy could be answered if those people would take a step back and ask why they are needed in the first place. Everyone quotes Benjamin Franklin and our other founding fathers not realizing that times have changed. Terrorism as we know it today didn't exist back then. England was their common enemy and they wore red coats. It's not that simple anymore.

Sorry for the rant.