View Poll Results: Do you associate terrorism with race, or religion?

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  • Yes, I think most middle easterners harbor terrorist beliefs.

    8 34.78%
  • Maybe, but I don't trust anyone with skin darker than mine.

    1 4.35%
  • No, terrorist come from all walks of life. Ask ted.

    10 43.48%
  • Khalfani, Yousef, and Aisha are known terrorist, let's get'em.

    11 47.83%
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    Well, what do you guys think distinguishes a terrorist, from a freedom fighter? Does anyone know much about US Foreign Policy? Do you feel that the US is fighting for freedom and democracy? Is controlled democracy, really democratic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecV_Scott
    It's unfortunate that the current rash of terrorism has been mainly carried out by radical islamists....becuase the majority of educated middle easterners don't share the same beliefs as the radicals.

    The facts are staggering though. 9/11. WTC (the first time). Bali. Spain train station bombings. UK bombings. Bombings/rocket attacks in Sharm El Sheikh. USS Cole. Attempted shoe bombing. Etc.
    not to mention the other conflicts around the world not involving US. Chechneia(sp) when the terrorists shot all of those school children. it's something like 98% involve muslims.
    what I want to know is why the people don't riot in the streets when these terrorists kill innocent people in the name of their religon, but go absolutly ape shit when some dutch guy makes a cartoon with a pic of mohammed. I'd like to hear that 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by HvyArms
    Well, what do you guys think distinguishes a terrorist, from a freedom fighter? Does anyone know much about US Foreign Policy? Do you feel that the US is fighting for freedom and democracy? Is controlled democracy, really democratic?
    the difference between freedom fighters and terrorists;
    freedom fighters don't shoot childern in the back to get what they want. they don't behead innocent civilions(sp) on tv. they don't shoot women dead when they run out of a burinig building because they don't have their heads cover. freedom fighters don't take plance full of innocent people, women, childern and fly them into buildings killing thousands. they don't blow up subways, train stations, fire rockets randomly into cities, or local cafe's.
    That is the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419
    the difference between freedom fighters and terrorists;
    freedom fighters don't shoot childern in the back to get what they want. they don't shoot women dead when they run out of a burinig building they don't blow up subways, train stations, fire rockets randomly into cities, or local cafe's.
    That is the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorists.
    so whats the difference between terrorists and evil soldiers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    so whats the difference between terrorists and evil soldiers?
    these "evil soldiers"(who ever they maybe) act out of their own free will against the orders of their commanders and against the oath they took upon entering their branch of service. the terrorists act together as a whole with the same goals. it is their objective to kill innocent people and to make their religon the dominate and only religon on the planet.
    unless you're talking about Hilter and the Nazis. then I would say almost nothing except the Nazis wanted to spread facism and the terrorists want to enforce islam on everyone. and the terrorists don't have concentration camps they just behead and blow people up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419
    these "evil soldiers"(who ever they maybe) act out of their own free will against the orders of their commanders and against the oath they took upon entering their branch of service. the terrorists act together as a whole with the same goals. it is their objective to kill innocent people and to make their religon the dominate and only religon on the planet.
    unless you're talking about Hilter and the Nazis. then I would say almost nothing except the Nazis wanted to spread facism and the terrorists want to enforce islam on everyone. and the terrorists don't have concentration camps they just behead and blow people up.
    i see what your saying but honestly your just profiling now, saying terrorists are out to spread "their" religion, im assuming you are meaning islam.

    so i will take it mcveigh wasnt a terrorist, since he wasnt trying to spread a religion....

    might want to rethink your definition of terrorist

    and also you think that the soldiers in vietnam/iraq were NEVER given orders to kill innocent people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    i see what your saying but honestly your just profiling now, saying terrorists are out to spread "their" religion, im assuming you are meaning islam.

    so i will take it mcveigh wasnt a terrorist, since he wasnt trying to spread a religion....

    might want to rethink your definition of terrorist

    and also you think that the soldiers in vietnam/iraq were NEVER given orders to kill innocent people?
    I knew you were going to say this.

    you wanna pull out every white guy with a flat top outof line and search him fine with me. just don't search the 60 yr old korean lady and pass the young arab kid with the back pack then say you're just being fair.
    and no his goal wasn't religously motivated, he was 1 of those anti gov't wacko guys.

    the timothy mcveigh argument is getting old...and weak. that's 1 compared to, I don't know 10,000.
    I don't want to wind up on a plane being hijacked by terrorists because you didn't want to "profile". give me a damn break.

    I don't know I wasn't in Vietnam. but a guy here at work was and I would like to see you come down here and compare him to a terrorist to his face.

    face it, the terrorists are muslim. they want to kill us(that includes you and me) and people like you crying about profiling are making it easier for them to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419
    I knew you were going to say this.

    you wanna pull out every white guy with a flat top outof line and search him fine with me. just don't search the 60 yr old korean lady and pass the young arab kid with the back pack then say you're just being fair.
    and no his goal wasn't religously motivated, he was 1 of those anti gov't wacko guys.
    im not talking about searching people, im just proving that you are a racist, you dont like muslims

    the timothy mcveigh argument is getting old...and weak. that's 1 compared to, I don't know 10,000.
    I don't want to wind up on a plane being hijacked by terrorists because you didn't want to "profile". give me a damn break.
    again, i never said anything about searching people refer to my last comment
    I don't know I wasn't in Vietnam. but a guy here at work was and I would like to see you come down here and compare him to a terrorist to his face.
    did i say that all people in vietam were evil? no
    it was an honest question that you tried to turn around what i said

    face it, the terrorists are muslim. they want to kill us(that includes you and me) and people like you crying about profiling are making it easier for them to do it.
    so all terrorists all over the world are muslim and its some secret muslim organization that creates all terrorism?

    you're a joke dude

    you need to do some research and get facts before you post
    here are some well known terrorist organizations, that had nothing to to with islam

    Irish Republican Brotherhood
    People's Will (russian)
    Communist Party of Philippines/New People's Army
    National Liberation Army (colombia)
    the list goes on...
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