Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
#1 Whose buses are they? The LOCAL gov't's.
#2 Whose responsability is it to DRIVE the buses normally? The LOCAL gov't.
#3 Who SHOULD have made the decision to evacuate people they KNEW couldn't drive themselves out? The LOCAL gov't.
#4 Who had drivers enough to PUT the buses there in the first place (buses don't drive themselves to be parked)? The LOCAL gov't.
#5 FEMA only takes over AFTER LOCAL gov't ASKS them to take over. They are NOT supposed to be the primary defense system against natural disasters. If they were, then we wouldn't have LOCAL emergency management agencies in place that under NORMAL circumstances don't even call FEMA in when a tornado or other storm hits.

how do u get anyone to drive when the whole city is evacuated? Since when do local emergency crew stand alone against natural disasters, especailly when there was atleast 2 weeks notice like you said yourself. There was plenty of warning like u said, everyone knew what it was gonna do, LIKE U SAID.. Sooo why couldnt FEMA get their shit together and get prepared. You expect a million plus ppl to leave a city in a weeks notice, but its too much to ask to have a little backup form the government/FEMA and help with it especially since there was a weeks notice.




Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
You're exactly right. NEW ORLEANS should have been ready for a Cat. 5 Hurricane. THEY knew it was a possibility a Cat 5 Hurricane COULD eventually hit there. THEY knew that their system to keep water OUT of a city which is already UNDER sea level was NOT designed to hold up to a Cat.5. THEY also had atleast 2 days to evacuate people THEMSELVES which they are now blaming someone else for not doing.
Theres no blame for noone evacuating, the problem was the HELP for the ppl that couldnt evacuate and the ones that went to the dome/convention center for help..




Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
Eventually, yes. In the beginning it is handled by the LOCAL emergency management people.
eventually? what kind of chain of caommand is that?, in the beginning it is handled by the local gov't (or it should be) you said it yourself. That the local's handle things before the gov't gets involved, and if its too much as this was it goes to the next level.

local gov't says we need help,

gov't officials says get everyone to the dome and help will get there

get to the dome whats there? nothing..



Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
#1 It has been widely publicized and damn near confirmed by the Gov herself in an interview on National TV that President asked HER if she needed help 1 day after the storm hit, while levees were STILL holding and there wasn't widespread flooding just yet, and SHE said basically "let me get back to you".
#2 When SHE finally did get back to them, it was now a panic situation. Levees had broke, city was drowning, and now suddenly it's HIS fault for not coming a couple of days earlier. How's that work like that? He by LAW can't simply come in and take over when the LOCAL gov't in place and still under power is NOT letting him. That's how our Gov't works. If he had overruled HER and basically took over Louisiana, he would have been called a tirant. He did what the LAW in place told him he HAD to do and now suddenly he's getting blamed for not acting fast enough. The man can't win no matter what. That is the absolute description of an escape goat.
i was referring to the mayor not the goevernor. He was the one that was screaming at the preisdent etc.




Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
The same place people are at NOW. Everywhere across the south in other states. Higher ground. Inland. Anywhere but where the water can get you.

I know it's not that easy. I know that it's impossible to evacuate 2 million people totally out of a city. I also know that they could've used quite a few resources they had readily available right then to of got many thousands of people out and avoided suffering. There are many people that couldn't fend for themselves that GOT to the Superdome. How'd they get there? The same way they got TO the Superdome, they should've been able to ride another 20 miles north out of harms way. The local gov't made a HUGE mistake in telling people to go to the Superdome and merely ride the storm out. Bush didn't tell them to go there, the Governor told them to go there. If SHE didn't have a plan for AFTER the storm, then SHE shouldn't of told them to go there.

My point is simple: I know that some people merely walked up to the Superdome AFTER the storm. Fine, I get that. But the vast majority that took refuge there didn't just walk up to the Superdome. Some couldn't even walk. How'd they get there? Why didn't they keep on trucking up the highway, while the highway was still passable, for another 50 miles inland? Why didn't the city, instead of parking the buses up near the levees they KNEW weren't gonna hold up, use their buses to drive evacuees further inland? Bush may have made a mistake or two, but the BIGGEST mistakes and the MOST mistakes were made at the LOCAL level before and after the storm hit. That's my point. The focus is being shifted to the Federal gov't now because they have the biggest spotlight.
you say u know how soem ppl cant get around, but u say that they oculd have just went 20 more miles north.. im confised? Superdome isnt far its almos walking distance form everywhere in Uptown - downtown NO. The ppl that drove to the dome, got ther and left... but alot got trappd b/c there was no power and no gas. the police didnt even have any gas to get around, they were taking vehicles form citizens to get around. The focus is being focused on govt b/c you take control of situations and when people look up to you for answers, and u have noone why are u here?



Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
No, I don't think people stayed TO loot, but I know that pictures don't lie too. Watching those same people that are one minute begging for help, while the very next minute they wade thru infested water to steal cart fulls of SHOES and Jewelry is also disheartening. I'm not cold hearted and am not going to stereotype. I have personally donated quite a bit thru my church, my business, and personally to contribute as much as I can to help the victims. But I also get upset when people take advantage of a situation too.
you cant class the fools who take useless items, with the ones that were beggin or food. Those are a whole different type of idiots. Saying somthing like "they should have left instead of looting" is just as ignorant as anything.