YOU can now BLame BUSH

[JITB]

NAtional guard was one of the things that were supposedly to be on the way during all this. but the national Guard was there on the monday night rescuing people form roofs. but they were really waiting for the national guard to brign boats in to get ppl out, but that didnt happen for a couple of days.

The mayor governor may have messed up getting ready for it. But the main reason for all this hooblah , is when help was called on from the gov't it took soo long for it to come. When it should have been ready, b/c none of this was a suprisem ut was expected.

[AznTraitor]

NAtional guard was one of the things that were supposedly to be on the way during all this. but the national Guard was there on the monday night rescuing people form roofs. but they were really waiting for the national guard to brign boats in to get ppl out, but that didnt happen for a couple of days.

The mayor governor may have messed up getting ready for it. But the main reason for all this hooblah , is when help was called on from the gov't it took soo long for it to come. When it should have been ready, b/c none of this was a suprisem ut was expected.

well from first reports, the levee's were intact...and if you actually stayed up late or woke up really early monday, you wouldve seen that in NO, there was no flooding, damage yes....but no flooding till the levee gave.

why does the national guard have to be on the way? on the way from where? Louisiana has a national guard unit, but they were not fully moblized by the Govenor. Why does every other national guard unit have to be mobilized?

the fact is, you have a bunch of lower class people who are just looking for handouts and nothing will satisfy them because they constantly want more and they want people to sympathize with them......take a good look at Mississippi....do you see any rioting? do you see any complaints flooding the tv's? no....

look at the smaller parishes surrounding NO, were they looting, were they complaining? and did you know that those smaller parishes didnt get help well after NO was handled.

[Jaimecbr900]

Great points Anz.

The time table is far different than JITB is making it out to be. AFTER the levee broke, the PRESIDENT called himself to ask the Gov if he should send FEDERAL help and she told him, "let me check into how much damage there is and I'll get back to you". How's that begging for help? How's that helping people that were later stranded and many drowned because SHE and the Mayor were sitting with their fingers up each other's butt?

Everybody wants to blame Bush for everything, especially when they were Bush haters BEFORE all this happened anyway. How convinient.

As a matter of fact, I read report earlier this week where a DEMOCRAT Senator from Louisiana used the National Guard, a National Guard that was already in scarce supply, troops to take him to his personal HOUSE to retrieve personal things out. They spent HOURS waiting on him while he made suitcases, he got his laptop, and other personal articles OUT of his house. All this was going on while people were dieing inside the Superdome. The report even said that reporters have confirmed that there were tracks still clearly visible in the Senator's front yard as the waters went down the other day. One of the vehicles they used to take him there, got stuck and the Senator called for a HELICOPTER to come and get him out, only to later refuse to go up the rope into it not once but twice. The helicopter already had evacuees inside and got tired of him refusing to go up. They left and could only rescue one more person because it wasted so much time and now needed to refuel.

Guess what the kicker to that story is? That very same Senator was not only one of those condeming Bush for "taking too long to help", but he is also being actively being investigated on Capitol Hill for some shady dealings. Now Congress wants to investigate if that laptop and other documents he took out were taken as an effort to destroy damning evidence against him. His congressional office and other offices in Louisiana had been raided by the FBI just before Katrina hit.

How many lives did this guy cost? We'll never know. I do know that it is shitty to abandon your post for your own gain and then complain that somebody else is not coming to "help you".

[JITB]

well from first reports, the levee's were intact...and if you actually stayed up late or woke up really early monday, you wouldve seen that in NO, there was no flooding, damage yes....but no flooding till the levee gave.

I said that about 2 pages ago... and ive said that atleast 3 times.

Bush haters? who said anythign about hate? If theres a problem why not address it? has the word hate been used by anyone ever in this whole sitiuation? Well what happens when the bush supporters quesition his judgement?

why does the national guard have to be on the way? on the way from where? Louisiana has a national guard unit, but they were not fully moblized by the Govenor. Why does every other national guard unit have to be mobilized?

......take a good look at Mississippi....do you see any rioting? do you see any complaints flooding the tv's? no....

look at the smaller parishes surrounding NO, were they looting, were they complaining? and did you know that those smaller parishes didnt get help well after NO was handled.

why be ignorant and compare idiots with ppl that need help. WE are talkin about the people who need help, not criminals and thieves who took advantage and stole and looted.

Looka t Miss, it wasnt as bad, it was bad alot was destroyed, but hae u forgottten miss isnt 15 under sea level. its like when the twin towers got attacked, all the focus went on that, and minimal talk was about the pentagon and especailly the flight of pennsylvania that crashed. Use your head you know why its not a big deal b/c mississippii wasnt hit as har, it was destroyed and damaged alot but ocmpared to NO it wasnt as bad.

Who deploys the national guard?

the fact is, you have a bunch of lower class people who are just looking for handouts and nothing will satisfy them because they constantly want more and they want people to sympathize with them

That whole theory u have goin there is whats wrong with this whole situation, and why ppl are soo upset. You cant sit there and just classify everyone as thieves and bums etc.

Soo basically we should just let the lower class ppl suffer and loose everything of hat little they had. All because they are just lower class people anyway. Thats a great way to summarize, the lower class lost everything...doesnt matter reallly they didnt have anything anyway, and than you wonder why kanye said what he said.

Im sure my cousin from NO who just got married 2 weeks before the hurricane just wants free handouts forever and tries so hard to make sure that you sympathize soo hard for her and her family, and that she takes all your tax dollars and uses them to buy tv's and drugs and doestn care abot getting her life she worked soo hard for back. I mean because ther just lower class people who just want free handouts all the time...soo who cares right?

Have u seen any victims on TV beg for anything other than finding there missing family? hae u seen anyone begging for more free handouts? Man these ppl just want there life back...if it means rewarding some of the idiots who maybe looted or stole useless stuff, and maybe putting ppl in better places in lif than they were before the storm, than i think its all worth it. Actually this whole thing might be a grace for NO atleast now they have a reason to renovate the projects..

[AznTraitor]

I have LOTS of family from Louisiana....in fact they are in the areas where there was NO help....because everyone was concentrating their efforts on N.O. So it was up to them to make due.....like I said, some areas didnt get help well after N.O was evacuated, those people didnt make trouble, all they wanted was help...did they get it? did they start rioting or start panicing and causing commotion?


Mississippi not as bad as N.O? are you kidding me? Biloxi & Gulfport is about 85% destroyed, Long Beach is 100% destroyed, Dauphin Island is 100% destroyed...We're talking complete cities and towns wiped off the face of the earth....last I checked N.O was still standing....flooded, but still standing...so what makes that city more important than any other city? the shipping yard is already back underway.....

[JITB]

I have LOTS of family from Louisiana....in fact they are in the areas where there was NO help....because everyone was concentrating their efforts on N.O. So it was up to them to make due.....like I said, some areas didnt get help well after N.O was evacuated, those people didnt make trouble, all they wanted was help...did they get it? did they start rioting or start panicing and causing commotion?


Mississippi not as bad as N.O? are you kidding me? Biloxi & Gulfport is about 85% destroyed, Long Beach is 100% destroyed, Dauphin Island is 100% destroyed...We're talking complete cities and towns wiped off the face of the earth....last I checked N.O was still standing....flooded, but still standing...so what makes that city more important than any other city? the shipping yard is already back underway.....

read what i said, the need for emergecy help wasnt as big in miss. By emergency im meaning rescuing from danger.

Soo i see we agree that some didnt get any help at all..

[AznTraitor]

read what i said, the need for emergecy help wasnt as big in miss. By emergency im meaning rescuing from danger.

Soo i see we agree that some didnt get any help at all..

we do agree that some areas didnt get as much help as they needed, but what I'm trying to get across is....how do we know they didnt need as much help? it's because all of the concentrated effort was thrown towards N.O because of all the media showing complaints, the lawlessness, and whatnot.

believe me, I'm sure lots of the Mississippi shorelines needed help and were in danger, but because N.O was a larger city, it received all of the focus.

the local govt of N.O was not organized....if they had a better plan or perhaps someone had stepped up and took charge and kept the people calm and reassured them instead of pointing fingers and getting everyone riled up, things mightve been different. Case in point, mayor Naigan was on CNN three days after the hurricane and said that he begged President Bush and the Govenor to delegate him ultimate authority, and then he began placing blame on EVERYONE but himself...even the correspondent called him out and he got pissed and said that he will take no part in any blame....

why did he have to beg anyone for permission? if he was a true leader and a smartone, he would've already jumped in and started doing what he wanted to do, put the supposed "plans" he had...instead he whined and moaned and got the people all pissed at the federal govt and causing chaos.