Happy that Obama is slipping in the polls?

[Vteckidd]

no matter the reason we were lied to so America would support the attack on Iraq - republicans/democrats both fell into the trap of lies created by Bush and the White House.

our security previous to 911 was nothing to do w/ Clinton but a lack of security put forth by the gov't set to protect us. I remember back late 90's going to visit my brother in TX at Fort Hood which is one of the largest military bases in the world (they even have a little iraq city) but we were able to drive right on the base and sit in tanks, helicopters, etc w/o having to got through a single check point

Ehh its no the first time we were lied to "I AM NOT A CROOK


Im not sold it was an outright LIE, rather more of an overexaggeration of what we were expecting to find.

Clinton let terrorism FLURISH while he was in office. He did little to nothing to contain or attack it. Clinton had about 4 opportunities to take Bin Laden out and he decided to watch football instead. This after the USS Cole was attacked and our embassies blown up.

Because of Clintons downsizing on the military and complete turning of his back to the outside world, terrorist states were left unchecked.

That my friend is FACT.

Read Deriliction of Duty, its a book by the guy that carried the NUCLEAR FOOTBALL for CLINTON for 2 years. Pretty interesting stuff.

Clinton was a big a bumbling idiot as Bush is, Clinton was just a smooth talker, Bush isnt. I feel the same way about Obama.

[4dmin]

Ehh its no the first time we were lied to "I AM NOT A CROOK


Im not sold it was an outright LIE, rather more of an overexaggeration of what we were expecting to find.

Clinton let terrorism FLURISH while he was in office. He did little to nothing to contain or attack it. Clinton had about 4 opportunities to take Bin Laden out and he decided to watch football instead. This after the USS Cole was attacked and our embassies blown up.

Because of Clintons downsizing on the military and complete turning of his back to the outside world, terrorist states were left unchecked.

That my friend is FACT.

Read Deriliction of Duty, its a book by the guy that carried the NUCLEAR FOOTBALL for CLINTON for 2 years. Pretty interesting stuff.

Clinton was a big a bumbling idiot as Bush is, Clinton was just a smooth talker, Bush isnt. I feel the same way about Obama.

you gotta go further back then Clinton this **** started back in 70s when were we supplying terrorist w/ weapons then turning our backs on them at the same time. we have played both sides to this situation that is why we are now in the ****. we should keep our nose out of regions issues unless it will directly affect us. mexico thats a good place for us to start focusing borders anyone? and of course now bush has got us in tizzy w/ russia - cold war anyone?

[Alan®]

you gotta go further back then Clinton this **** started back in 70s when were we supplying terrorist w/ weapons then turning our backs on them at the same time. we have played both sides to this situation that is why we are now in the ****. we should keep our nose out of regions issues unless it will directly affect us. mexico thats a good place for us to start focusing borders anyone? and of course now bush has got us in tizzy w/ russia - cold war anyone?

Really when you get down to it 9/11 was our own fault and if you want to pin it down to one guy that man is Jimmy Carter. I wrote a paper for one of my English classes last year.

On July 3rd, 1979 President Carter signed an order to secretly aid the Afghanistan Rebel’s to push out the Russian’s(Intervention). In an interview ten years ago the then head of the CIA was asked if he regretted supporting Islamic Radicalists to which he responded “What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?” (Intervention).

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

[4dmin]

Really when you get down to it 9/11 was our own fault and if you want to pin it down to one guy that man is Jimmy Carter. I wrote a paper for one of my English classes last year.



http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

no i agree that's why i said the date range anyone who is a bush supporter try's to play it off as Clintons problem

[tony]

Really when you get down to it 9/11 was our own fault and if you want to pin it down to one guy that man is Jimmy Carter. I wrote a paper for one of my English classes last year.



http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

Did you read your very own post? You say Jimmy Carter is to blame for a CIA operation, if that is the case we can directly blame George Bush for the false intelligence gathered by the CIA in the case of Iraq.

Furthermore the Taliban didn't officially form until the early 90's, Carter's presidency ended in 81.

[Vteckidd]

Did you read your very own post? You say Jimmy Carter is to blame for a CIA operation, if that is the case we can directly blame George Bush for the false intelligence gathered by the CIA in the case of Iraq.

Furthermore the Taliban didn't officially form until the early 90's, Carter's presidency ended in 81.

Correct.

I mean we have a history of helping people that end up being our enemies.

Iran-Contra
Afghanistan
Iraq
Theres tons others. IIRC WE SUPPLIED weapons to Iraq to keep Iran from taking them over. Lotta good that did us LOL

I do agree with the "lets take care of ourselves" attitude because i think too often we get involved with stuff we shouldnt be involved with.

Clinton had us all over the globe doing peacekeeping missions our military was never designed for. Kosovo, Somalia, etc

**** this im running for president

[Alan®]

Did you read your very own post? You say Jimmy Carter is to blame for a CIA operation, if that is the case we can directly blame George Bush for the false intelligence gathered by the CIA in the case of Iraq.

Furthermore the Taliban didn't officially form until the early 90's, Carter's presidency ended in 81.

He's to blame because he signed off on it.

[tony]

He's to blame because he signed off on it.

If an extremist faction of Georgia broke off and attacked the U.S you realize this situation would be no different right?

Afghanistan was an ally fighting a known enemy of the U.S, Carter would have been heavily criticized for not authorizing it.

[Alan®]

If an extremist faction of Georgia broke off and attacked the U.S you realize this situation would be no different right?

Afghanistan was an ally fighting a known enemy of the U.S, Carter would have been heavily criticized for not authorizing it.

Did you bother to read the full story?

Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

The man instigated it.