Quote Originally Posted by joecoolfreak
To respond directly to Danny for a moment...I don't think it's nearly as obvious where big and small government lie in those particular examples. Let's take taxes/economic equality for a minute. I sincerely fail to see where the republicans find themselves on a smaller government platform on this issue. I can't ever remember a single republican downsizing the tax code. I don't see any of them streamlining or decreasing the IRS's role. To be fair, I don't see the democrats doing it either. I truly don't see how "trickle down economic" polices have anything to do with smaller government.
Well in this case and many others you have to choose the lesser of the two evils. Just because I say democrats are for large government, doesnt mean republicans are dieing at the cross for a smaller government. Our party's are not setup to these extremes and we both know that. With that in mind: democrats in generally want the government to pick and choose who is wealthy, who is poor. They want everyone to be equal (being simplistic of course). You cannot deny the fact that the dems want large government in this regard, I heard Obamas victory speech where he mentioned taking profitable oil companies and forcing them to give their profits elsewhere. Not once have a heard a republican get up in front of the nation and say: "you company X have made too much money, we are going to force you to give you profits away". Yes this tax/ economic equality is very broad and not completely intertwined in all cases.

As far as the physical size of the tax code, dont even try to start to point your finger as to whos fault it is. Both party's are equally responsible. And not once have a seen a dem say they are willing do away with the IRS, not once. So once again, choose the lesser of the two evils. To me, republicans are the only ones I have seen that are open to the idea of doing away with the IRS and the billion pages of garbage tax code.

Quote Originally Posted by joecoolfreak
Big government by your original argument is a larger, more expensive, less effective bureaucracy, which the military is the epitome of.

Your right, in this context. But the definition of big government not only means physically large and inefficient, but also effecting the free will of people and the open markets. And clearly, the dems support a larger govt when you consider that the definition includes effecting free will of people and markets.


And all the examples where i mentioned that its clear as to who supports large govt are in fact clear. Again, pick the less of the 2 evils