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    Damn Tony you killin um!!!! Obama may not have the experience everyone seems to want him to have but in is legislations he has tried to do more for the sake of the people. And I think that is why so many people like him. He is giving America back to its people. Change is definitely what we need right now especially after the 8 years in hell we’ve had. We also have the race between Markel Hutchins who’s only 31 years old and 68 year old John Lewis who is been there since the beginning. You can see America is ready for something new, and I am really excited to see what’s going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbiz101
    He is giving America back to its people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbiz101
    He is giving America back to its people.


    That is a tear of joy. He thank Obama for setting shiit straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbiz101
    Damn Tony you killin um!!!! Obama may not have the experience everyone seems to want him to have but in is legislations he has tried to do more for the sake of the people. And I think that is why so many people like him. He is giving America back to its people. Change is definitely what we need right now especially after the 8 years in hell we’ve had. We also have the race between Markel Hutchins who’s only 31 years old and 68 year old John Lewis who is been there since the beginning. You can see America is ready for something new, and I am really excited to see what’s going to happen.


    completely retarded statement.


    have you read Obama's book "Dreams of my father", Ann Coulter did an article on it that sums it up pretty well.

    Its pretty much 300 pages about how the white man has put him down and he expresses a lot of anger on racial issues.




    when was a time in the past when we saw a big political leader with great rhetoric skills write a book like that, Mein Kampf... ring a bell?




    I don't like McCain, but Obama is seriously going to put the country in the ****ter, its really about the lesser of two evils at this point, i personally would have gone with Rudy over anyone else.

    He has no experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    i will lead an exodus to canada in november if things go sour.
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    Canada is already more socialist than we are. I don't think that would be a good move for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdsrock22
    Canada is already more socialist than we are. I don't think that would be a good move for you.



    Dude I'm all about Native rights. They got effed pretty dang hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    have you read Obama's book "Dreams of my father", Ann Coulter did an article on it that sums it up pretty well.
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    Did you read his book yourself or did you just read Ann Coulter's review? Because Ann Coulter is about as credibile a source as a shetland pony on meth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NawzDawg!!1!
    Did you read his book yourself or did you just read Ann Coulter's review? Because Ann Coulter is about as credibile a source as a shetland pony on meth.

    i've read parts, not start to finish... he gets pretty worked up on it, dark aspects you don't want to see coming out from a presidential candidate.


    I don't want to see some one in power though who is going to make even more social programs that we can't afford especially right now. I wait for the day of fair tax and no affirmitive action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    I don't want to see some one in power though who is going to make even more social programs that we can't afford especially right now. .
    As opposed to someone who creates social programs and doesn't fund them (No Child Left Behind, anyone?)

    Don't even get me started on the "Fair" Tax...... it will create more problems than it will solve.

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    name 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NawzDawg!!1!
    As opposed to someone who creates social programs and doesn't fund them (No Child Left Behind, anyone?)

    Don't even get me started on the "Fair" Tax...... it will create more problems than it will solve.


    you mean by boosting the economy and creating jobs that everyone moans about there is a lack of?



    federal funding for education has increased by time and a half, so i don't know where the first part came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    you mean by boosting the economy and creating jobs that everyone moans about there is a lack of?.
    Well you are right on one part... it will create jobs. The conservatives complain about how the IRS is a huge beauraucracy. Well the IRS sends checks once a year (and those stimulus packages every now and then). Imagine the further beauraucracy needed to send out checks once a month to all Americans below the poverty line as the proponents of the Fair Tax suggest.

    Also, I thought it was the goal of the conservatives to get poor people off of monthly government checks... now they want to put all poor people on them. What gives?

    And Ann Coulter should give up writing/speaking and pose for Hustler magazine while she is still somewhat attractive. Note that I said Hustler, because Playboy expects their models to have at least a little class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg


    have you read Obama's book "Dreams of my father", Ann Coulter did an article on it that sums it up pretty well.

    Its pretty much 300 pages about how the white man has put him down and he expresses a lot of anger on racial issues.

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    Being the strong black woman that I am.....That is awesome, I should read that book. And please hurry up and go to Canada. Obama 08 John McCain who??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbiz101
    Being the strong black woman that I am.....That is awesome, I should read that book. And please hurry up and go to Canada. Obama 08 John McCain who??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizbiz101
    Being the strong black woman that I am.....That is awesome, I should read that book.


    So, by that, are you saying that you are racist and enjoy others speaking the same way. Is this why you want him to be president? Because you share the same views?

    Hate will never extinguish hate. (As had been stated more times than anything ever need be said) It only adds fuel to the fire.

    I could never vote for someone who has the background Obama has. I do not beleive I need to give examples. They have been listed too many times already. If you haven't realized by now that he will NOT unite this country then nothing anyone says will make you realize this.

    I do not like either of the candidates, but I will vote for the lesser of two evils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraClone
    So, by that, are you saying that you are racist and enjoy others speaking the same way. Is this why you want him to be president? Because you share the same views?

    Hate will never extinguish hate. (As had been stated more times than anything ever need be said) It only adds fuel to the fire.

    I could never vote for someone who has the background Obama has. I do not beleive I need to give examples. They have been listed too many times already. If you haven't realized by now that he will NOT unite this country then nothing anyone says will make you realize this.

    I do not like either of the candidates, but I will vote for the lesser of two evils.


    my point exactly man.
    i'm conservative, but its so obvious how bad Obama is.





    he resembles so much characters like Hitler, Stalin, and Castro. Great public speakers with beautiful and inspiring rhetroic who come from the outside of the centralized government with new, fresh ideas who appear as "liberators"... but they really have agendas fueled with hate from a troubled background.



    if history can teach us anything, its to avoid characters like Obama, i don't know how many times we need the same lesson again and again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg





    he resembles so much characters like Hitler, Stalin, and Castro. Great public speakers with beautiful and inspiring rhetroic who come from the outside of the centralized government with new, fresh ideas who appear as "liberators"... but they really have agendas fueled with hate from a troubled background.


    So whats his real agenda? Enslave white people? Call up his boys in Al Qaeda and let them know its open season? Lets be realistic.. what exactly has Obama done or said that translates to Hitler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    he resembles so much characters like Hitler, Stalin, and Castro. Great public speakers with beautiful and inspiring rhetroic who come from the outside of the centralized government with new, fresh ideas who appear as "liberators"... but they really have agendas fueled with hate from a troubled background.



    if history can teach us anything, its to avoid characters like Obama, i don't know how many times we need the same lesson again and again.
    i hear this a lot, and i understand the general premise of the notion, but one thing still baffles me. Why is it that no one deems it possible to (and you put this quite well, Chase) speak with beautiful and inspiring rhetoric and introduce fresh ideas, while not simultaneously having some ominous agenda? I consider myself a somewhat eloquent, well-spoken individual, but I don't have some evil plan that utilizes that. I know thats a poor example, but I'm just saying... you can be a phenomenal speaker and an inspiration without simultaneously being the devil incarnate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osnap
    i hear this a lot, and i understand the general premise of the notion, but one thing still baffles me. Why is it that no one deems it possible to (and you put this quite well, Chase) speak with beautiful and inspiring rhetoric and introduce fresh ideas, while not simultaneously having some ominous agenda? I consider myself a somewhat eloquent, well-spoken individual, but I don't have some evil plan that utilizes that. I know thats a poor example, but I'm just saying... you can be a phenomenal speaker and an inspiration without simultaneously being the devil incarnate.
    That's actually a good point. Props.

    I think the parallel is being made sometimes because those guys (the truly evil ones) sold the masses a bill of goods that only served a hidden agenda. They were able to do so partly BECAUSE they were so eloquent and charismatic. Sort of like a good salesman will sell ice to an Eskimo.

    I still think you have a good point though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osnap
    i hear this a lot, and i understand the general premise of the notion, but one thing still baffles me. Why is it that no one deems it possible to (and you put this quite well, Chase) speak with beautiful and inspiring rhetoric and introduce fresh ideas, while not simultaneously having some ominous agenda? I consider myself a somewhat eloquent, well-spoken individual, but I don't have some evil plan that utilizes that. I know thats a poor example, but I'm just saying... you can be a phenomenal speaker and an inspiration without simultaneously being the devil incarnate.

    thats the thing though, they win over the hearts of millions with all the fireworks of a great speech and memorable one liners that speak about glorious change. Which like you said can be a good thing within the hands of a truely good leader, JFK had good speeches and so did Reagan and i liked both those men's terms (for the most part).


    but its just the fact with his church, his book, not wearing the flag, wanting to meet with terrorist leaders, his wife being so unpatriotic.... i'm not suggesting that will happen, but it looks so ominous with all of the signs pointing in that direction. You know what i'm saying?



    All i'm saying is i think people need to learn more about Obama and what he has done, he has come out of the woodworks... passed on most votes in the Senate like Edwards pointed out and speaks little of policy.


    I just hope America makes an informed decision on this one and learns from the past... i certainly don't think so, but by all means he could be the best President ever, i just have a bad feeling is my point and i think people should be aware of the possibilities
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    Quote Originally Posted by osnap
    i hear this a lot, and i understand the general premise of the notion, but one thing still baffles me. Why is it that no one deems it possible to (and you put this quite well, Chase) speak with beautiful and inspiring rhetoric and introduce fresh ideas, while not simultaneously having some ominous agenda? I consider myself a somewhat eloquent, well-spoken individual, but I don't have some evil plan that utilizes that. I know thats a poor example, but I'm just saying... you can be a phenomenal speaker and an inspiration without simultaneously being the devil incarnate.

    I think you have missed the point.

    Noone is saying he must have some ominous agenda because he speaks so well. It is his background and the people he has associated with (for many years until just recently distancing himself from them to further his campaign), that are cause for concern.

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