Who's the biggest Villain Sadam or Bush?

[1000cckiller]

This is my last question for a minute. I want to know who ya'll think the biggest villain is, is it Bush or Sadam. After watching the special on National Geographic last night, I saw how much of a villain sadam was. But in my eyes Bush is a villain too. Bush to me lead us to a war for reasons people still dont know, and has pretty much turn his party against him. Sadam was a villain to his own people which to me that is his own countries fault, for allowing him to abuse them. Our country can't be the police for everyone's problems. I would like to hear others imput.

[xLSTONEx]

who cares, and sadam is dead, so I think Bush wins by default. Even though I like Bush.

[1000cckiller]

who cares, and sadam is dead, so I think Bush wins by default. Even though I like Bush.

I like ya answer lol.

[ShooterMcGavin]

i think bush should follow in saddam's footsteps, i hear hell is a lonely place

[Fr33way]

404: public mutilation and genocide not found under Bush. No contest.

[OneSlow5pt0]

is this a joke?

of course sadam,he was bout the worst dictator since Hitler

[Ed]

i think bush should follow in saddam's footsteps, i hear hell is a lonely place

bush for the motherfucking loss

[2.0civic]

who cares, and sadam is dead, so I think Bush wins by default. Even though I like Bush.

exactly

[OneSlow5pt0]

well,the only people to blame for bush is the USA,because we voted for him,and hes bout to be out of office anyways..but sadam took over power and would still be in power

[2.0civic]

How the hell is sadaam even an option in this? its a no brainer...as landon said, his ass is dead

[OneSlow5pt0]

How the hell is sadaam even an option in this? its a no brainer...as landon said, his ass is dead

this is true...

[1000cckiller]

^ I understand what you are saying, but we arent the only people calling Bush a villain there are othe countries. But lying to start a war and the killing a bunch of people is being a villain in my book. And the chemical weapons sadam had he used them on his own people.

[1000cckiller]

OKay if he was still alive it would be a factor, so look at it like that.

[quickdodge®]

i hear hell is a lonely place

It's not. There's a shitload of folks down there. Later, QD.

[2.0civic]

not going to start a debate but lets look at this

In two sentences you say

But lying to start a war and the killing a bunch of people is being a villain in my book

what was he lying about? I love when people talk about him lying but its so broad, i would like you to be more defining to prove your stance

And the chemical weapons sadam had he used them on his own people

so bush lied about WMD's but yet sadam used them on his own people?? How?? he didnt have them, remember? Bush was lying

[Mike Lowrey]

This thread can't be serious.....If it is, than the OP is an idiot. There is no contest. If you do not like Bush, fine. Has he committed some crime against the world? NO.

No matter what, we should have sought out the people behind the 911 attack and eliminated them. Not doing so would have led the way for additional attackes in the future. If you look back into the past, the terrorist attacks have been getting more and more deadly.

Why should the world simply turn the other cheek and take these attacks? Simply thinking that is shear stupidity. The world, as the US, have laws. When these law and the order are threatened, there should be consequences. Without sonsequences, there is no deterent for people not to commit crimes.

[2.0civic]

It's not. There's a shitload of folks down there. Later, QD.

LOL half of IA is going there too..I guess as long as we gots the interweb we'll always be IA.

HAHA

"welcome to tunerfest Hell EDITION V. 2.98^1090876!"

[OneSlow5pt0]

and are u saying its ok to torture,blame, and kill your own people....but as long as u dont kill anyone from another country its fine?

[2.0civic]

This thread can't be serious.....If it is, than the OP is an idiot. There is no contest. If you do not like Bush, fine. Has he committed some crime against the world? NO.

No matter what, we should have sought out the people behind the 911 attack and eliminated them. Not doing so would have led the way for additional attackes in the future. If you look back into the past, the terrorist attacks have been getting more and more deadly.

Why should the world simply turn the other cheek and take these attacks? Simply thinking that is shear stupidity. The world, as the US, have laws. When these law and the order are threatened, there should be consequences. Without sonsequences, there is no deterent for people not to commit crimes.

if 9/11 happened during clinton, nobody would be giving a rats ass

Hell, we were more tied up in worrying about who was blowing clinton than we were about who was blowing up our GD country

[Mike Lowrey]

what was he lying about? I love when people talk about him lying but its so broad, i would like you to be more defining to prove your stance

x2

[2.0civic]

and are u saying its ok to torture,blame, and kill your own people....but as long as u dont kill anyone from another country its fine?

same lines i was kind of thinking

[OneSlow5pt0]

same lines i was kind of thinking

[Mike Lowrey]

if 9/11 happened during clinton, nobody would be giving a rats ass

Hell, we were more tied up in worrying about who was blowing clinton than we were about who was blowing up our GD country

Hell the planning and some of the goverment "misses" on the clues happened during the Clinton administration, but nobody says anything about that. All they see is that it happened during the Bush administration, and therefore it is his fault.

People in masses do not think, they react. More americans should start using their own brain and not just automatically beleive what they are told. Self thought and reasoning. That is what is supposed to set us apart from animals!

[OneSlow5pt0]

i like Bush,because to me, i feel like hes not a pussy to do something....at somethie or another we were going to go back to Iraq..regardless if bush was prez

[1000cckiller]

look weapons of mass destruction is more like war heads and so forth. chemical weapons dont define weapons of mass destruction, though it can be a part of it. We still never found weapons of mass destruction in Iraqi. But look we are one of the countries that gave Sadam chemical weapons, but we gave to him after Sadam went to war with Iran. Sadam was our one of our allies until he went to war with kuwaitt. So if Bush would have said we are going to war because he was killing his people and he had chemical weapons, I wouldn't call him a liar.

[Mike Lowrey]

look weapons of mass destruction is more like war heads and so forth. chemical weapons dont define weapons of mass destruction, though it can be a part of it. We still never found weapons of mass destruction in Iraqi. But look we are one of the countries that gave Sadam chemical weapons, but we gave to him after Sadam went to war with Iran. Sadam was our one of our allies until he went to war with kuwaitt. So if Bush would have said we are going to war because he was killing his people and he had chemical weapons, I wouldn't call him a liar.

Check your history of this. The original reason for the war was the fact that the 911 attacks was an "act of war against the US". The ties for the planning, etc of that attack led back to Sadam.

[quickdodge®]

I think Julio is the real villain here. Put some thought processes into this. If Julio hadn't moved here from that little village in Uruguay, he never would have found the Internet. Not finding the Internet, Julio would have not been able to forge his way through with the development if Import Atlanta. Think about it, now. We have all the world's problem's right here under one URLbrella. We have racial wars, sexist people, gay bashing and other human atrocities right here on IA. If Julio had not made that trek across the Southern and into the Northern hemisphere, we would be rid of all that tears the equality of humans apart. I think before we start trespassing into another's problems, we need to focus more on our own and see if we can bring home the peace that should have been here in the first place. Later, QD.

[2.0civic]

Hell the planning and some of the goverment "misses" on the clues happened during the Clinton administration, but nobody says anything about that. All they see is that it happened during the Bush administration, and therefore it is his fault.

People in masses do not think, they react. More americans should start using their own brain and not just automatically beleive what they are told. Self thought and reasoning. That is what is supposed to set us apart from animals!

everyone seems to be forgeting about the first WTC attack that clinton didnt do shit about

[Mike Lowrey]

I think Julio is the real villain here. Put some thought processes into this. If Julio hadn't moved here from that little village in Uruguay, he never would have found the Internet. Not finding the Internet, Julio would have not been able to forge his way through with the development if Import Atlanta. Think about it, now. We have all the world's problem's right here under one URLbrella. We have racial wars, sexist people, gay bashing and other human atrocities right here on IA. If Julio had not made that trek across the Southern and into the Northern hemisphere, we would be rid of all that tears the equality of humans apart. I think before we start trespassing into another's problems, we need to focus more on our own and see if we can bring home the peace that should have been here in the first place. Later, QD.

Well since you put it that way. Hang Julio! lol

[2.0civic]

Check your history of this. The original reason for the war was the fact that the 911 attacks was an "act of war against the US". The ties for the planning, etc of that attack led back to Sadam.

THANK YOU!!! Thats why i ALWAYS ask for clarification..

Dont beleive EVERYTHING you hear and try to overanalyze it...

Theres always three sides to everything military... Our side, Their side, And the MEDIA....99% of people only hear the media...

[OneSlow5pt0]

everyone seems to be forgeting about the first WTC attack that clinton didnt do shit about

also people forget that Bill had bin laden captured then they let him go,

[Mike Lowrey]

everyone seems to be forgeting about the first WTC attack that clinton didnt do shit about

That is because they only listen to what they are told by the media. There is problem number 1.

[ShooterMcGavin]

The ties for the planning, etc of that attack led back to Sadam.

um maybe YOU need to check the facts on that one rich

[2.0civic]

also people forget that Bill had bin laden captured then they let him go,

Lets not forget the real reason bush attacked...







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But gas is still $3 a gallon


the above statement was made with complete sarcasm

[1000cckiller]

Check your history of this. The original reason for the war was the fact that the 911 attacks was an "act of war against the US". The ties for the planning, etc of that attack led back to Sadam.

Acutally you might want to check yours, because if you pay attention to all the media, and other news sources, it was stated that sadam had nothing to do with 9/11. 9/11 has no issue hear. Also I believe they are both villains. We are not the world police,we have our own problems that need to be handled here.

[OneSlow5pt0]

lol,and the gold

[2.0civic]

That is because they only listen to what they are told by the media. There is problem number 1.

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THANK YOU!!! Thats why i ALWAYS ask for clarification..

Dont beleive EVERYTHING you hear and try to overanalyze it...

Theres always three sides to everything military... Our side, Their side, And the MEDIA....99% of people only hear the media...

\/\/\/\/\/LIRL point proven

Acutally you might want to check yours, because if you pay attention to all the media, and other news sources, it was stated that sadam had nothing to do with 9/11. 9/11 has no issue hear. Also I believe they are both villains. We are not the world police,we have our own problems that need to be handled here.

[OneSlow5pt0]

world police = United Nations,so its not just USA

[Mike Lowrey]

um maybe YOU need to check the facts on that one rich

LOL. I am typing too fast. Osama......

[2.0civic]

Hypnotoad brings up yet another valid point..

Unless im not retaining my info correctly, how many UN sanctions did sadaam violate?? too bad the US was the only country with balls enough to do anything about it