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    This speech was the beginning of the end for black people.


    This speech was delivered by Willie Lynch on the bank of the James River in the colony of Virginia in 1712. Lynch was a British slave owner in the West Indies. He was invited to the colony of Virginia in 1712 to teach his methods to slave owners there. The term “lynching” is derived from his last name.

    [beginning of the Willie Lynch Letter]

    Greetings,

    Gentlemen. I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies, where I have experimented with some of the newest, and still the oldest, methods for control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish, I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of wood as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasions. I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree, a couple miles back. You are not only losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed. Gentlemen, you know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I HAVE A FULL PROOF METHOD FOR CONTROLLING YOUR BLACK SLAVES. I guarantee every one of you that, if installed correctly, IT WILL CONTROL THE SLAVES FOR AT LEAST 300 HUNDREDS YEARS. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it. I HAVE OUTLINED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES AMONG THE SLAVES; AND I TAKE THESE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE THEM BIGGER. I USE FEAR, DISTRUST AND ENVY FOR CONTROL PURPOSES. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On top of my list is “AGE,” but it’s there only because it starts with an “a.” The second is “COLOR” or shade. There is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZES OF PLANTATIONS, STATUS on plantations, ATTITUDE of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, course hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action, but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST AND ENVY STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION. The Black slaves after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for HUNDREDS of years, maybe THOUSANDS. Don’t forget, you must pitch the OLD black male vs. the YOUNG black male, and the YOUNG black male against the OLD black male. You must use the DARK skin slaves vs. the LIGHT skin slaves, and the LIGHT skin slaves vs. the DARK skin slaves. You must use the FEMALE vs. the MALE, and the MALE vs. the FEMALE. You must also have white servants and overseers [who] distrust all Blacks. But it is NECESSARY THAT YOUR SLAVES TRUST AND DEPEND ON US. THEY MUST LOVE, RESPECT AND TRUST ONLY US. Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. IF USED INTENSELY FOR ONE YEAR, THE SLAVES THEMSELVES WILL REMAIN PERPETUALLY DISTRUSTFUL. Thank you gentlemen.”

    LET’S MAKE A SLAVE

    It was the interest and business of slave holders to study human nature, and the slave nature in particular, with a view to practical results. I and many of them attained astonishing proficiency in this direction. They had to deal not with earth, wood and stone, but with men and, by every regard, they had for their own safety and prosperity they needed to know the material on which they were to work, conscious of the injustice and wrong they were every hour perpetuating and knowing what they themselves would do. Were they the victims of such wrongs? They were constantly looking for the first signs of the dreaded retribution. They watched therefore with skilled and practiced eyes, and learned to read with great accuracy, the state of mind and heart of the slave, through his sable face. Unusual sobriety, apparent abstractions, sullenness and indifference indeed, any mood out of the common was afforded ground for suspicion and inquiry. Frederick Douglas LET’S MAKE A SLAVE is a study of the scientific process of man-breaking and slave-making. It describes the rationale and results of the Anglo Saxons’ ideas and methods of insuring the master/slave relationship. LET’S MAKE A SLAVE “The Original and Development of a Social Being Called ‘The Negro.’” Let us make a slave. What do we need? First of all, we need a black ****** man, a pregnant ****** woman and her baby ****** boy. Second, we will use the same basic principle that we use in breaking a horse, combined with some more sustaining factors. What we do with horses is that we break them from one form of life to another; that is, we reduce them from their natural state in nature. Whereas nature provides them with the natural capacity to take care of their offspring, we break that natural string of independence from them and thereby create a dependency status, so that we may be able to get from them useful production for our business and pleasure.

    CARDINAL PRINCIPLES FOR MAKING A NEGRO

    For fear that our future generations may not understand the principles of breaking both of the beast together, the ****** and the horse. We understand that short range planning economics results in periodic economic chaos; so that to avoid turmoil in the economy, it requires us to have breadth and depth in long range comprehensive planning, articulating both skill sharp perceptions. We lay down the following principles for long range comprehensive economic planning. Both horse and ******s [are] no good to the economy in the wild or natural state. Both must be BROKEN and TIED together for orderly production. For orderly future, special and particular attention must be paid to the FEMALE and the YOUNGEST offspring. Both must be CROSSBRED to produce a variety and division of labor. Both must be taught to respond to a peculiar new LANGUAGE. Psychological and physical instruction of CONTAINMENT must be created for both. We hold the six cardinal principles as truth to be self-evident, based upon following the discourse concerning the economics of breaking and tying the horse and the ****** together, all inclusive of the six principles laid down above. NOTE: Neither principle alone will suffice for good economics. All principles must be employed for orderly good of the nation. Accordingly, both a wild horse and a wild or natur[al] ****** is dangerous even if captured, for they will have the tendency to seek their customary freedom and, in doing so, might kill you in your sleep. You cannot rest. They sleep while you are awake, and are awake while you are asleep. They are DANGEROUS near the family house and it requires too much labor to watch them away from the house. Above all, you cannot get them to work in this natural state. Hence, both the horse and the ****** must be broken; that is breaking them from one form of mental life to another. KEEP THE BODY, TAKE THE MIND! In other words, break the will to resist. Now the breaking process is the same for both the horse and the ******, only slightly varying in degrees. But, as we said before, there is an art in long range economic planning. YOU MUST KEEP YOUR EYE AND THOUGHTS ON THE FEMALE and the OFFSPRING of the horse and the ******. A brief discourse in offspring development will shed light on the key to sound economic principles. Pay little attention to the generation of original breaking, but CONCENTRATE ON FUTURE GENERATION. Therefore, if you break the FEMALE mother, she will BREAK the offspring in its early years of development; and when the offspring is old enough to work, she will deliver it up to you, for her normal female protective tendencies will have been lost in the original breaking process. For example, take the case of the wild stud horse, a female horse and an already infant horse and compare the breaking process with two captured ****** males in their natural state, a pregnant ****** woman with her infant offspring. Take the stud horse, break him for limited containment. Completely break the female horse until she becomes very gentle, whereas you or anybody can ride her in her comfort. Breed the mare and the stud until you have the desired offspring. Then, you can turn the stud to freedom until you need him again. Train the female horse whereby she will eat out of your hand, and she will in turn train the infant horse to eat out of your hand, also. When it comes to breaking the uncivilized ******, use the same process, but vary the degree and step up the pressure, so as to do a complete reversal of the mind. Take the meanest and most restless ******, strip him of his clothes in front of the remaining male ******s, the female, and the ****** infant, tar and feather him, tie each leg to a different horse faced in opposite directions, set him afire and beat both horses to pull him apart in front of the remaining ******s. The next step is to take a bullwhip and beat the remaining ****** males to the point of death, in front of the female and the infant. Don’t kill him, but PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN HIM, for he can be useful for future breeding.

    THE BREAKING PROCESS OF THE AFRICAN WOMAN

    Take the female and run a series of tests on her to see if she will submit to your desires willingly. Test her in every way, because she is the most important factor for good economics. If she shows any sign of resistance in submitting completely to your will, do not hesitate to use the bullwhip on her to extract that last bit of [b----] out of her. Take care not to kill her, for in doing so, you spoil good economics. When in complete submission, she will train her offsprings in the early years to submit to labor when they become of age. Understanding is the best thing. Therefore, we shall go deeper into this area of the subject matter concerning what we have produced here in this breaking process of the female ******. We have reversed the relationship; in her natural uncivilized state, she would have a strong dependency on the uncivilized ****** male, and she would have a limited protective tendency toward her independent male offspring and would raise male offsprings to be dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and pulling a civilized ****** apart and bullwhipping the other to the point of death, all in her presence. By her being left alone, unprotected, with the MALE IMAGE DESTROYED, the ordeal caused her to move from her psychologically dependent state to a frozen, independent state. In this frozen, psychological state of independence, she will raise her MALE and female offspring in reversed roles. For FEAR of the young male’s life, she will psychologically train him to be MENTALLY WEAK and DEPENDENT, but PHYSICALLY STRONG. Because she has become psychologically independent, she will train her FEMALE offsprings to be psychologically independent. What have you got? You’ve got the ****** WOMAN OUT FRONT AND THE ****** MAN BEHIND AND SCARED. This is a perfect situation of sound sleep and economics. Before the breaking process, we had to be alertly on guard at all times. Now, we can sleep soundly, for out of frozen fear his woman stands guard for us. He cannot get past her early slave-molding process. He is a good tool, now ready to be tied to the horse at a tender age. By the time a ****** boy reaches the age of sixteen, he is soundly broken in and ready for a long life of sound and efficient work and the reproduction of a unit of good labor force. Continually through the breaking of uncivilized savage ******s, by throwing the ****** female savage into a frozen psychological state of independence, by killing the protective male image, and by creating a submissive dependent mind of the ****** male slave, we have created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever, unless a phenomenon occurs and re-shifts the position of the male and female slaves. We show what we mean by example. Take the case of the two economic slave units and examine them close.

    THE NEGRO MARRIAGE

    We breed two ****** males with two ****** females. Then, we take the ****** male away from them and keep them moving and working. Say one ****** female bears a ****** female and the other bears a ****** male; both ****** females—being without influence of the ****** male image, frozen with a independent psychology—will raise their offspring into reverse positions. The one with the female offspring will teach her to be like herself, independent and negotiable (we negotiate with her, through her, by her, negotiates her at will). The one with the ****** male offspring, she being frozen subconscious fear for his life, will raise him to be mentally dependent and weak, but physically strong; in other words, body over mind. Now, in a few years when these two offsprings become fertile for early reproduction, we will mate and breed them and continue the cycle. That is good, sound and long range comprehensive planning.

    WARNING: POSSIBLE INTERLOPING NEGATIVES

    Earlier, we talked about the non-economic good of the horse and the ****** in their wild or natural state; we talked out the principle of breaking and tying them together for orderly production. Furthermore, we talked about paying particular attention to the female savage and her offspring for orderly future planning, then more recently we stated that, by reversing the positions of the male and female savages, we created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever unless a phenomenon occurred and reshifts positions of the male and female savages. Our experts warned us about the possibility of this phenomenon occurring, for they say that the mind has a strong drive to correct and re-correct itself over a period of time if it can touch some substantial original historical base; and they advised us that the best way to deal with the phenomenon is to shave off the brute’s mental history and create a multiplicity of phenomena of illusions, so that each illusion will twirl in its own orbit, something similar to floating balls in a vacuum. This creation of multiplicity of phenomena of illusions entails the principle of crossbreeding the ****** and the horse as we stated above, the purpose of which is to create a diversified division of labor; thereby creating different levels of labor and different values of illusion at each connecting level of labor. The results of which is the severance of the points of original beginnings for each sphere illusion. Since we feel that the subject matter may get more complicated as we proceed in laying down our economic plan concerning the purpose, reason and effect of crossbreeding horses and ******s, we shall lay down the following definition terms for future generations. Orbiting cycle means a thing turning in a given path. Axis means upon which or around which a body turns. Phenomenon means something beyond ordinary conception and inspires awe and wonder. Multiplicity means a great number. Means a globe. Crossbreeding a horse means taking a horse and breeding it with an ass and you get a dumb, backward, ass long-headed mule that is not reproductive nor productive by itself. Crossbreeding ******s mean taking so many drops of good white blood and putting them into as many ****** women as possible, varying the drops by the various tone that you want, and then letting them breed with each other until another circle of color appears as you desire. What this means is this: Put the ******s and the horse in a breeding pot, mix some asses and some good white blood and what do you get? You got a multiplicity of colors of ass backward, unusual ******s, running, tied to backward ass long-headed mules, the one productive of itself, the other sterile. (The one constant, the other dying, we keep the ****** constant for we may replace the mules for another tool) both mule and ****** tied to each other, neither knowing where the other came from and neither productive for itself, nor without each other.

    CONTROLLED LANGUAGE

    Crossbreeding completed, for further severance from their original beginning, WE MUST COMPLETELY ANNIHILATE THE MOTHER TONGUE of both the new ****** and the new mule, and institute a new language that involves the new life’s work of both. You know language is a peculiar institution. It leads to the heart of a people. The more a foreigner knows about the language of another country the more he is able to move through all levels of that society. Therefore, if the foreigner is an enemy of the country, to the extent that he knows the body of the language, to that extent is the country vulnerable to attack or invasion of a foreign culture. For example, if you take a slave, if you teach him all about your language, he will know all your secrets, and he is then no more a slave, for you can’t fool him any longer, and BEING A FOOL IS ONE OF THE BASIC INGREDIENTS OF ANY INCIDENTS TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SLAVERY SYSTEM. For example, if you told a slave that he must perform in getting out “our crops” and he knows the language well, he would know that “our crops” didn’t mean “our crops” and the slavery system would break down, for he would relate on the basis of what “our crops” really meant. So you have to be careful in setting up the new language; for the slaves would soon be in your house, talking to you as “man to man” and that is death to our economic system. In addition, the definitions of words or terms are only a minute part of the process. Values are created and transported by communication through the body of the language. A total society has many interconnected value systems. All the values in the society have bridges of language to connect them for orderly working in the society. But for these language bridges, these many value systems would sharply clash and cause internal strife or civil war, the degree of the conflict being determined by the magnitude of the issues or relative opposing strength in whatever form. For example, if you put a slave in a hog pen and train him to live there and incorporate in him to value it as a way of life completely, the biggest problem you would have out of him is that he would worry you about provisions to keep the hog pen clean, or the same hog pen and make a slip and incorporate something in his language whereby he comes to value a house more than he does his hog pen, you got a problem. He will soon be in your house.

    Additional Note: “Henty Berry, speaking in the Virginia House of Delegates in 1832, described the situation as it existed in many parts of the South at this time: “We have, as far as possible, closed every avenue by which light may enter their (the slaves) minds. If we could extinguish the capacity to see the light, our work would be complete; they would then be on a level with the beasts of the field and we should be safe. I am not certain that we would not do it, if we could find out the process and that on the plea of necessity.” From Brown America, The story of a New Race by Edwin R. Embree. 1931 The Viking Press.

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    wtb : cliff notes

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    I am 1 generation away from a Holocaust survivor. that's right my grandmother(still alive) spent the majority of her teenage years in Nazi concentration camps. Do you hear me bitching about "reparations" or a fucking handout from the Germans? NO! and she dosen't either! so when people bitch about getting a fucking hand out for some shit they NEVER EXPERIENCED! it kinda pisses me off.

    btw: being a single male that dosen't own a house is a good way to get raped on your taxes. I think I'm going to buy something just to try and save some of the $$$ that the gov't steals from me every year. bastards...
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    Echo, they have holocaust museums everywhere and the holocaust lasted a few years and ended about 60 years ago. I totally support the documentation for that history and the jews DID receive reparations, especially from the swiss. African-American's finally got thier museum in Washington D.C. after the jews have had theirs there (great museum) for many years and as alot of people are quick to point out, physical slavery ended 140 years ago, and it lasted for hundreds of years. I know alot of jews are very sensitive about the holocaust even if they didnt experience it and I can accept that. But at the point one should accept that African-Americans be sensitive on the issues of slavery. I really didn't have the opportunity to really learn about black history until I went to college, so I have no problem with a Black History Month. for 13 years (with the exception of MLK and slavery) I learned nothing but of what the Europeans had done in europe and the americas. And to reply to the person who talked of African-Americans have no histry besides a few works,t hats the point exactly. There are volumes of works/arts/music by African-Americans, but also during slavery, you could be killed for writing, reading, etc. I agree with lucient and the guy with the blue honda, there are alot of ignorant people on this board (surprisingly). In regards to Affirmative Action, I beleive it should be socioeconomic and not racial, but even int hat event, go to any school in the inner city, or deep country for that matter, and compare it to a suburban school, no equality there at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alawa
    Echo, they have holocaust museums everywhere and the holocaust lasted a few years and ended about 60 years ago. I totally support the documentation for that history and the jews DID receive reparations, especially from the swiss. African-American's finally got thier museum in Washington D.C. after the jews have had theirs there (great museum) for many years and as alot of people are quick to point out, physical slavery ended 140 years ago, and it lasted for hundreds of years. I know alot of jews are very sensitive about the holocaust even if they didnt experience it and I can accept that. But at the point one should accept that African-Americans be sensitive on the issues of slavery. I really didn't have the opportunity to really learn about black history until I went to college, so I have no problem with a Black History Month. for 13 years (with the exception of MLK and slavery) I learned nothing but of what the Europeans had done in europe and the americas. And to reply to the person who talked of African-Americans have no histry besides a few works,t hats the point exactly. There are volumes of works/arts/music by African-Americans, but also during slavery, you could be killed for writing, reading, etc. I agree with lucient and the guy with the blue honda, there are alot of ignorant people on this board (surprisingly). In regards to Affirmative Action, I beleive it should be socioeconomic and not racial, but even int hat event, go to any school in the inner city, or deep country for that matter, and compare it to a suburban school, no equality there at all.
    <---Polish not jewish. but that dosen't really matter.

    I was refrencing the comments on reparations. I do think AA is horse shit though.
    I look @ it like this: if you(business owner) don't want to hire the person that's going to do the best job for your business then your business is doomed to failure.

    btw: "Black History Month" I could careless. History/Discovery Chanel FTW!
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    I discussed this in a thread a while back, and obviously a lot of you didn't bother to read it.

    If you ACT and TALK and WALK like a damn duck, you're a damn duck. How hard is that to understand?

    Racism will ALWAYS be here. Why? Because people's ignorance will never go away. Lack of information, lack of intelligence, lack of REAL knowledge (not heresay) is what will perpetually keep that circle alive.

    What can we do? Think about it.

    If someone thinks you're STUPID and you want them to think you're smart......do you....A: Act stupid just like they think you are or; B: Act smart and prove them wrong??? *Insert Final Jeopardy music*

    First of all, why use the politically correct term of "African-American"? What is that describing about YOU???? What???? Is it used to describe a "race" or a "color" or a "person"???? Think about it. You are trying to get people to look at you past face value, right? Then why the hell hang a big ole sign on your neck that says absolutely nothing about you other than your COLOR? I don't understand it. Exactly what part of Africa did you come from? Do you even know? Do you even care? Then why would you want people referring to you that way?

    If someone asked me in a condescending way, and they have, "What are you?"......I respond with the same answer......I'm a MAN.....that is "what" I am, isn't it? I know what they were trying to say, but I'm not going to play THEIR game. You wanna know WHERE I came from or what my background is because I LOOK different than you, then you ask me correctly and I'll tell you. I don't want to labeled "spanish-american", "hispanic-American", or even "Puerto Rican-American". You call me by my name....JAIME. I wasn't born here, but this is where my home is...my family is....my friends are....so THIS IS my home. I was BORN a citizen just like any other person born here. I've been here longer than I ever lived in PR. Does that mean I'm no longer a Puerto Rican??? Hell no. You're born what you're born. Why would you want to deny that? But I also wouldn't want to be labeled "Puerto Rican-American" because I think that's stupid and defeats the purpose if I want to be looked at as an individual and not part of any herd.

    I'm very proud of my heritage and my roots, but I don't have to have a sign on my neck to prove that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    I discussed this in a thread a while back, and obviously a lot of you didn't bother to read it.

    If you ACT and TALK and WALK like a damn duck, you're a damn duck. How hard is that to understand?
    are you calling me a duck?! is this another Polish joke?! am I setting myself up by asking the previopus question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Racism will ALWAYS be here. Why? Because people's ignorance will never go away. Lack of information, lack of intelligence, lack of REAL knowledge (not heresay) is what will perpetually keep that circle alive.

    What can we do? Think about it.

    If someone thinks you're STUPID and you want them to think you're smart......do you....A: Act stupid just like they think you are or; B: Act smart and prove them wrong??? *Insert Final Jeopardy music*
    kinda like when people make "cartoons" of muslims being violent and then the local muslim community riots?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    First of all, why use the politically correct term of "African-American"? What is that describing about YOU???? What???? Is it used to describe a "race" or a "color" or a "person"???? Think about it. You are trying to get people to look at you past face value, right? Then why the hell hang a big ole sign on your neck that says absolutely nothing about you other than your COLOR? I don't understand it. Exactly what part of Africa did you come from? Do you even know? Do you even care? Then why would you want people referring to you that way?
    why? I just give you 2 words: "Race Pimps".

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    If someone asked me in a condescending way, and they have, "What are you?"......I respond with the same answer......I'm a MAN.....that is "what" I am, isn't it? I know what they were trying to say, but I'm not going to play THEIR game. You wanna know WHERE I came from or what my background is because I LOOK different than you, then you ask me correctly and I'll tell you. I don't want to labeled "spanish-american", "hispanic-American", or even "Puerto Rican-American". You call me by my name....JAIME. I wasn't born here, but this is where my home is...my family is....my friends are....so THIS IS my home. I was BORN a citizen just like any other person born here. I've been here longer than I ever lived in PR. Does that mean I'm no longer a Puerto Rican??? Hell no. You're born what you're born. Why would you want to deny that? But I also wouldn't want to be labeled "Puerto Rican-American" because I think that's stupid and defeats the purpose if I want to be looked at as an individual and not part of any herd.
    if someone asks me "what are you?" before awnsering I think about the context of the question. usually my response is, "I'm the Master Chief from the Xbox game Halo" or "Right for you baby."

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    I'm very proud of my heritage and my roots, but I don't have to have a sign on my neck to prove that.
    me 2! of course when I do something stupid people usually guess on their own that I'm part Polish
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly
    True. But where's my sig?!! (lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    I discussed ..................... to prove that.
    Well said and very valid points.

    And I completely agree on the term "african american". YOU ARE NOT AN AFRICAN AMERICAN UNLESS YOU WERE ACTUALLY BORN IN AFRICA AND MOVED HERE.

    I met a real african american the other day, and she was white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmonrah
    honestly.....all you have to do on ANY GIVEN day of the year, is turn to HISTORY CHANNEL. your history is on....all day every day. hell i watch it. but i'm a history buff anyway, so i watch it regardless.
    Now this is true ignorance. Do you really believe that black history is oppressed all year except for black history month? If you are truly a history buff then you know thats rediculous.

    If it isn't oppressed, then why is there a need for black history month? There isn't one, other than promoting racism.

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    Honestly racial slurs and jokes arent really funny.. But i understand how someone that hasnt experienced any hard ships or times.. I.E. growing up into slavery or in opressed times would not give a shit... Out of respect I dislike any and all racial slurs to any and all races... Simply because their are people alive to this day that grew up in hard ships that made it better for future generations to live and all we do is make jokes and question because we cant understand the true hardships of our ancestors lives... As hard as it seems i dont think i could ever imagine the pain that it would be to not be able to do or go where i please just because i didnt look like the owner or occupants of a store... shit is and will always be silly... I have nothing against anyone and dont look at "white's" for help because of what someone did to my ancestors... nor will I ever...
    As like any historical story over time the truth is hidden behind lies.. Americas history books are all tales of the true truths but no one will ever admit to this because to rewrite history as is would really show people how harsh reality is... we cant do that... somethings are best kept untold and hidden...
    All i say is wake up... Life only exist now because of then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by plugsnet
    Honestly racial slurs and jokes arent really funny.. But i understand how someone that hasnt experienced any hard ships or times.. I.E. growing up into slavery or in opressed times would not give a shit... Out of respect I dislike any and all racial slurs to any and all races... Simply because their are people alive to this day that grew up in hard ships that made it better for future generations to live and all we do is make jokes and question because we cant understand the true hardships of our ancestors lives... As hard as it seems i dont think i could ever imagine the pain that it would be to not be able to do or go where i please just because i didnt look like the owner or occupants of a store... shit is and will always be silly... I have nothing against anyone and dont look at "white's" for help because of what someone did to my ancestors... nor will I ever...
    As like any historical story over time the truth is hidden behind lies.. Americas history books are all tales of the true truths but no one will ever admit to this because to rewrite history as is would really show people how harsh reality is... we cant do that... somethings are best kept untold and hidden...
    All i say is wake up... Life only exist now because of then...
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    Reparations? You guys got 40 acres and a mule

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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419
    I am 1 generation away from a Holocaust survivor. that's right my grandmother(still alive) spent the majority of her teenage years in Nazi concentration camps. Do you hear me bitching about "reparations" or a fucking handout from the Germans? NO! and she dosen't either! so when people bitch about getting a fucking hand out for some shit they NEVER EXPERIENCED! it kinda pisses me off.

    btw: being a single male that dosen't own a house is a good way to get raped on your taxes. I think I'm going to buy something just to try and save some of the $$$ that the gov't steals from me every year. bastards...
    But you see, the Japanese in America got $40,000(I believe) after they were all sent to concentration camps ex post facto.

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    There is a time and a place for everything, but if you stare too long into what's behind you....eventually you'll trip and fall over something.

    People want handouts. People will take handouts. People use no common sense when making decisions in their life now.

    Reparations will not change that.

    There was a comedian that once joked, "If we ever got reparations, all it would do is we'd see a bunch more Escalades parked out in front of ghettos...." The comedian was black btw.

    Reparations is not the answer to racism. It doesn't change the past. It doesn't change what happened. Education of other cultures. Tolerance over fellow human beings. THAT is what going to help against racism. All the reparations in the world are not going to change people's ATTITUDES and BEHAVIOR. Again, money does NOT buy class. Money doesn't buy respect. Money is not always the answer to people's hardships.

    I saw a lady just this morning. She was obese, loud, rude, and ridiculously ghetto as shit. She got her Coach purse, talked loud as hell on the phone, and walked right out into her MB SUV parked all crooked in the parking lot. MONEY can't buy that lady class. She obviously has some. She's still ghetto as hell. How is she a positive example? She's not. How is she helping by playing right into stereotypes? She's not. Trust me, MONEY can't buy you class. People's attitudes and behaviors in public go much farther to curb that than having a pocket full of money for a week would.

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