I don't see why ???

[nightracer]

Ppl buy cars from Audi Volkswagen AG... More shit has fucked up on my Jetta than all the shit from all my previous cars combined... And thats a lot of shit considering all the turbo drama I had to sort on my previous 240sx. I will never buy another German car unless it is a BMW. Benz reliability is down the toilet and don't fucking argue with me my dad has an S600 V12 that fucks up all the time. My old porsche was a fuck pit on wheels it was about as reliable as a hmmmm it wasn't reliable. Audi's suck nuts my boy's A4 turned into a pile of shit on its own. God damn german cars irk me. So its American and Japanese for me. There is no point in buying a god damn European name with leather seats and cup holders when you can buy Jap car with the same shit for cheaper. I know julio and ruiner are going to have opposed opinions but in all honesty American V8's and Japanese turbo cars are where its at.

[~The_Duke~]

lol sounds like you know alot of people that have had very shitty luck with german cars...I know my fair share to, but I also know my fair share that have put 500000 on thier benz or bmw and they are still rolling strong...

To each their own...

[Ruiner]

Umm, Porsche is #1 on the initial dependability survey from JD Power... They beat out Lexus. Other German cars might not be reliable, but Porsche is not just any German car. Also remember that Porsche is 100% independent and is not owned by Volkswagen (despite what people may think).

I've never had any issues with my 911 turbo and I know plenty of other people that haven't, either.

[wantboost]

they are good as long as they are under warranty.(or if you do your own work)

[koukis14]

I work in an independent european shop where 95% of the cars that come in are VW and Audi. I will have you know sir that you are 100% correct. When I move down there I am putting applications in at every dealership but those two. We are lucky enough to have one of best VW troubleshooting men in the northeast as a friend of the shop and he recently told me that the cars are now going to shit befor they are even sold. I would never drive any VW made after 1991. New VWs are junk and people only buy them for the name...and those people are morons.

[4dmin]

every car maker has issues, just depends on what your taste are...

euros = electronic disaster
american = crap
jap = cheap

i know tons of euros vw, bmw, benz, etc... that have made over 250k miles w/o anything but minor shit like a clutch, tune up...

[MongolPup]

Hey ruiner can I get a link to that survey? Seems like just last week on the MSN home page they had the current report and Lexus was on top. Maybe I read it wrong or w/e, just curious.

[~The_Duke~]

It all just depends on luck with the car itself. I know people with all makes and models of cars that have made it up that far without and problem...if you get a lemon well then you get a lemon...doesnt really matter wither it is a Kraut lemon, a jap lemon, or a home ground one...

[MongolPup]

Personally, I would never buy an American car. Honda/Acura Toyota/Lexus for me only; I can't say I even trust Nissan, Subaru, Mitsu or the like.

[koukis14]

i know tons of euros vw, bmw, benz, etc... that have made over 250k miles w/o anything but minor shit like a clutch, tune up...

Maybe BMW and old Mercedes but new VWs and Audis would never go that long, especially with an automatic transmission. Dont get me wrong, VW motors are bullitproof, but the components that hep them run properly are not Scotish. Ill take an air cooled superbeetle over a brand new GTI any day. I think atleast once a week the old guy I work with flips out and goes "NO WONDER THEY LOST THE WAR"

[koukis14]

Personally, I would never buy an American car. Honda/Acura Toyota/Lexus for me only; I can't say I even trust Nissan, Subaru, Mitsu or the like.

Yeah I dont know much about Subaru but I know Mitsubishi and Nissans product has gone to shit. I know for a fact Nissan stopped making good cars when all the models changed in 2001-2003

[IndianStig]

Personally, I would never buy an American car. Honda/Acura Toyota/Lexus for me only; I can't say I even trust Nissan, Subaru, Mitsu or the like.

Thus your shit will always be slow.

[Ruiner]

Hey ruiner can I get a link to that survey? Seems like just last week on the MSN home page they had the current report and Lexus was on top. Maybe I read it wrong or w/e, just curious.

Remember, initial quality survey:

[Brady]

hey brandon....off topic but..you going to the rennsouth show?

[The Youngn]

HELL YEA!!! Porsche FTMFW!!!!

[ShooterMcGavin]

sounds like ur bad luck for all german cars ur around...good thing i don't know u

[Ruiner]

hey brandon....off topic but..you going to the rennsouth show?

When is it? I should go and try and sell my car... I need to look at the events on the Rennsouth site...

[ShooterMcGavin]

saturday from like noon-3pm at some restaurant in duluth.

[nightracer]

Remember, initial quality survey:

Porsche was at the bottom a few years ago. This is just for the 2006 model year. I still loathe Audi/VW though.. Electronic nightmares.

And nissan went to shit when they brought out the VQ motor.

[civic95]

But for some reason they have the most loyal buyers. I know a few VW owners that always have something going wrong, but they continue to buy another VW every couple years.

[4dmin]

But for some reason they have the most loyal buyers. I know a few VW owners that always have something going wrong, but they continue to buy another VW every couple years.

its b/c the issues most of us have aren't any big deal... so i've thrown a few codes on my 1.8t... the car was 150whp/160lbs factory w/ NORMAL BOLT on's... software, downpipe, exhuast, intake car made 220whp/285lbs... you can't expect to not run into issues modding cars. but there hasn't been anything VW hasn't covered or i couldn't fix under 100$... most expensive part i replaced was my MAF it was like 65$.

i will still continue to buy VW/Audi, i just purchased 2 cars in the past month both VW... only other german car i would buy would be Porsche or M3. To me you just get more bang for your buck 10g you can get a hot used boosted ride that will last well over 100k miles

I also own a 2000 jetta 2.0L my wife has driven this for 4 years w/o a single problem.

[TeeJay]

HONDUHHHH 4 LYFE F00!!!

[Julio]

No issues out of my audi.. besides a maf.. lol

[DeutscheBAG!]

as much problems they might give.owners of them are real die hard about them..including this one..
i had a Corrado back in my freshmen year of college..it had a assload of problems but damn i miss that car with a passion and would take it back in a heartbeat.

VW/Audi AG might have their issues but nowhere near as many as a Land Rover.

Me and my pops used to have bets to see whose car would have more problems.
(i'll put it like this, at one point, we had a land rover loaner car longer than we owned ours)

[Spyder]

I will personally never own another VW/Audi, i'm thinking about buying some heated seats for my car.. (its a dub joke, minus the joke.)

[DeutscheBAG!]

I will personally never own another VW/Audi, i'm thinking about buying some heated seats for my car.. (its a dub joke, minus the joke.)

do you still have your jetta?

[Spyder]

do you still have your jetta?

Yea, you want it? lol

[40th GT]

Remember, initial quality survey:

Wow I'm surprised that Hyundai is third. Makes me a proud Korean.

[40th GT]

Thus your shit will always be slow.

repped.

[BlkCD5]

Originally posted by admin
its b/c the issues most of us have aren't any big deal... so i've thrown a few codes on my 1.8t... the car was 150whp/160lbs factory w/ NORMAL BOLT on's... software, downpipe, exhuast, intake car made 220whp/285lbs... you can't expect to not run into issues modding cars. but there hasn't been anything VW hasn't covered or i couldn't fix under 100$... most expensive part i replaced was my MAF it was like 65$.

Are you shitting me $65?!?!! . A maf for a 02 maxima se cost $290. WTF .

[God]

Ppl buy cars from Audi Volkswagen AG... More shit has fucked up on my Jetta than all the shit from all my previous cars combined... And thats a lot of shit considering all the turbo drama I had to sort on my previous 240sx. I will never buy another German car unless it is a BMW. Benz reliability is down the toilet and don't fucking argue with me my dad has an S600 V12 that fucks up all the time. My old porsche was a fuck pit on wheels it was about as reliable as a hmmmm it wasn't reliable. Audi's suck nuts my boy's A4 turned into a pile of shit on its own. God damn german cars irk me. So its American and Japanese for me. There is no point in buying a god damn European name with leather seats and cup holders when you can buy Jap car with the same shit for cheaper. I know julio and ruiner are going to have opposed opinions but in all honesty American V8's and Japanese turbo cars are where its at.

so 4 cars that are german have had problems?
out of how many produced?

[God]

every car maker has issues, just depends on what your taste are...

euros = electronic disaster
american = crap
jap = cheap

i know tons of euros vw, bmw, benz, etc... that have made over 250k miles w/o anything but minor shit like a clutch, tune up...

speaking of which,
one of my 3 bmws needs a new o2 sensor, since im at 300k
haha
only things ive ever had done on the car are wear/tear items

[GermanMuscle]

if you take of it, takes care of you....thats how it works with german cars. they cant take abuse like some little honda