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    Default The Destruction an Reincarnation of 99SIs B16

    Some of you know that 99SI was one of my first customers. We built him a stock block b16 that revved to 9800rpms an sometimes 10,000. The motor lasted an outstanding 40,000 miles +. He had a long powerband that peaked at 175whp@9300. But all good things must come to an end. Heres what happens when you rev a motor out that far for that long:

    Original Specs:
    B16 Short Block
    PR3 Pistons (stock)
    ARP 9mm Rod bolts
    Stock rods
    rotating assembly balanced professionally
    Rocket Motorsports M22X Cams
    Rocket motorsports Valvetrain
    Omnipower Flat Face High Compression valves
    milled head .30
    AEBS intake manifold
    DC JDM 4-1 Header 2.5in collector

    Head looks in great shape considering


    Block
    Pistons look good, normal carbon build up


    The bad
    #3 Rod bearing


    #4 Rod Bearing

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99SI
    ^^^If you are reffering to me, I don't know exactly yet obviously as it has only just begun to be built. But, IMHO I should be looking at around 124-127 wtq with my header, give or take. Which would be 18-21 more ft/lb than my b16. A pretty significant amount considering it's not a big stroke motor and it's a Honda. lol. If you weren't asking me, well then, go fuck yourself. lol. j/k. I think this shit has turned into a situation of neither wanting to back down. I do feel that 1Civic instigated this shit though. Backhanded comments and being a smartass are not made up for by saying, "not trying to be an ass, or just wanting to know so chill." In fact I would say by saying things like that it is more of a compounding problem since you are saying, I can be an asshole, tell you I'm not, and it should be OK. 1Civic brought up a Type R head and it's flow characteristics in a thread about me spinning a bearing, / Obviously 1Civic was looking to start shit with Mike. Bottom line is, Mike knows his stuff but what makes it better is that if he is unsure on something he goes to an industry leader such as, Rocket of RM, David Hsu owner of Skunk2, Don Flores of DFE. The information he has and applies to a build is tested, proven, and known to work and work properly. I am as skeptical as they come and when I first met Mike I looked into everything he said, didn't accept it as a fact because he's the great VTECKIDD but accepted it when I verified it myself. 1Civic if you're trying to discredit Mike, you're barking up the wrong tree. Mike's not going to kiss your ass because you're a customer but he will treat you with respect, be HONEST with you, and tell it like it is. One of the most impressive things to me was the fact that he didn't try to sell me things to make more money. If he could save me money and have a part that was just as reliable or made just as much power then that's what he reccomended. If I would have just gone about ordering my own parts and accumulating stuff it would have cost me twice what I spent with him guiding the build. I'm a loyal Mainstream Performance customer and consider Mike to be a good friend at this juncture in our relationship and anyone who wants to know anything about it can ask me. I'll tell you. Good luck as I said before to anyone who wants to build motors, do it themselves, take stuff to other shops, but when it comes to my money and my car I am going to be going to MSP and Vteckidd. :climbs down off soapbox: lol.
    thanks michael, we will get this started this week. she should make some good numbers
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    And thanks for posting his response to my question, Was kinding wondering. Good luck with the build guys! Everything sounds like its gonna be sweet.

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    *UPDATE*

    seems his valve stem seals werent the cause of his "oil" consumption. Found a Cracked valve guide on cylinder 3, exhaust side. everything else looks good, i just finished up dissasembling the head.
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    I finished up dissasmebling the head today:


    Valveguide cracked



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    damn thats crazy.

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    I gotta teach you the Macro button on the camera...i'm sure it has one.

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    NEw block arrived today:
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    Was that his block sitting in the floor near the table with "vteckidd version 3.0" sitting on it?

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    yes
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    Here we go. I'm looking forward to getting this show on the road. Machine shop here we come.

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    its like Xmas:


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    what's that, a new header? Budget, what budget? lol. 4-2-1 that whopping 130lb/ft of torque is just going to blow my mind, I won't know what to think after having 105lb/ft for so long. lmao. Shit I've got to keep this car in the garage more often and drive one of Earl's finest home.

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    Boy, shouldn't be too much longer now. Post up some new pics when you get a chance Mike. The head is at the machine shop having new valve guides installed now. As soon as the head comes back it will be assembled with new Ferrea valves, Rocket motorsports all new valvesprings and ti retainers, M22 or Pro1 not sure yet. Can't wait to get it back in the car and start running again. I forgot how lame most cars are to drive until this last month of driving cadillacs, altimas, maximas, accords, F-150's, etc. home everyday.

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    bump for a new build! Going to def. be nice!
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    just waiting on the head to get back from Don Flores with new guides
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    pimp stuff.

    i'm curious, why do you stay with a B16? it seems that the budget could allow for something bigger?
    Who knows?

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    It's not a B16 anymore. GSR bottom end, rebuilt, balanced, blueprinted, PR3 pistons, CP rings, ACL race bearings, ARP rod bolts. DFE is doing a valve job, ferrea bronze valve guides, REV flat face valves, ferrea valve stem seals, Rocket Motorsports new valvetrain (can't remember the name). I'm sending DFE a check out today so hopefully within the next couple weeks the engine will be back in the car. We've gone back and forth deciding which way would be best for getting things going and ultimately got a good deal through DFE on the work needed to get my head back in shape and performing even better to boot.

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    wow good luck with the build this is almost identical to my setup. post some numbers when you guys get everything together.

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    GSR Block
    PR3 pistons
    ACL Race bearings
    M22X camshafts/Skunk2 PRO1s
    Rocket Motorsports Prototype SLX Valvetrain
    REV Flat Faced Valves
    SMSP/SPARKS 4-2-1 TRI Y Header

    Should be in the high 180s low 190s
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    niiiice. i love all-motor setups. to me they take much more engineering prowess.
    Who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
    GSR Block
    PR3 pistons
    ACL Race bearings
    M22X camshafts/Skunk2 PRO1s
    Rocket Motorsports Prototype SLX Valvetrain
    REV Flat Faced Valves
    SMSP/SPARKS 4-2-1 TRI Y Header

    Should be in the high 180s low 190s
    Betcha he won't make more than my motor .. (kidding)

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    That Sparks header looks familiar. It's now on it's third owner in less than one year. It made good power though on a mild b16, 174whp @ 8400rpms on MSPi's dyno.

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    yep, originally sent to Mike to use during his header comparo that he did about a year ago, he sold it, the guy he sold it to sold it to me. It's had a few cracks that have been rewelded, luckily the guys at MSPi are pretty handy with the welder and can make sure it's in tip top shape before being bolted on. That was one piece I felt like held me back on my last motor was a good header so when the opportunity arose to get a good deal on a top notch header I couldn't pass it up.

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    Well, finally got some good news out of this project! DonF from DFE was working on my new valve guides yesterday, so hopefully within the next week the new valve angles will be cut, guides done, seals done, and ready to slap on the bottom end that has been waiting oh so patiently in some dark corner of Mainstream! Feels like the first build all over again.

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    if you have the $, get don to do a port and polish on that head... it can work wonders for NA...

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    That would be lovely but seeing as this was not an expected rebuild, the money I would love to spend was not budgeted for and saved for. I do not have the cash to do all that I want to do.

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    Why does it always come down to money?

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    because bush is our president... ^^

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    u ever get ur factory body panels back on?? U still a ricer? =P

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    if you can, get mike to order you an advance set of those omni itb's and see what they can do.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2ner
    u ever get ur factory body panels back on?? U still a ricer? =P
    Wellllllll, since I had to unexpectedly spend $x,xxx.xx to build a new engine to put in my ricemobile I haven't quite found the time, money, or the give a damn to put a new front bumper on. In due time. I just want to be riding again ASAP, I bought a bunch of shit for autox after my first event and broke a couple days before the second event. So I have been anxious to get back out to dodge some cones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe
    because bush is our president... ^^
    ya not lying mang , gas is fkin killer these days.... if ur interested i do have a good friend who does some good ass P&P work for low low . lmk man

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    I spoke with DFE on the phone yesterday, due to some problems with another build my head was delayed. It should be shipped out today going to Mainstream. The engine should be put back together by this time next week and getting ready to put in the car. After several delays on trying to figure out which way to go it looks like there is an end in sight. I'll keep this updated as it gets together and put in the car. Then will come dyno results. Stay tuned.

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    what are you using to tune?

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    Head arrived this morning, hopefully Mr. Vteckidd will be kind enough to grace these pages with some pictures of the ensuing build. Hopefully by Sunday the longblock will be put together and be ready to drop into the car next weekend.

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    99SI an i got the Head all fully assembled today. Ill be reasembling the bottom end tomorrow and installing the fresh cylinder head. Might be able to have it fired up in the next week.

    190whp on an OEM block here we come
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    I enjoyed getting my hands dirty and actually having "something" to do with my motor's build process. Although it was minimal, it was nice to learn something. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly with no hang ups or set backs. I spoke with my chassis sitting downstairs in my shop this morning, she said that she wanted her heart back now. I cleaned her off and pushed her around a bit so she wouldn't think I had forgotten about her.

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