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[Jdm94Coupe]

"USED" is the Key word here id rather have New un-abused my self

Just because something is used, does not mean its abused. If you would rather have that mustang then the Porsche he posted, its probably something wrong with you mentally. BTW, since when has the mustang become known as reliable? What world is that in?

And for $30,000 I have more faith in an engine i built, compared to an engine thrown together on a assembly line in 20 minutes. Warranty doesn't help you out when you are stranded with no $ because you are paying a ridiculous monthly car payment, that most can't afford anyway.

[Dylan]

Well I suppose I fall into that "broke ass kid category". With that said I have a car that isn't brand new or beaten to hell and back. A lot of my time has been put into getting my car and making it the way I feel I want it to be. If I could OWN a brand new vehicle you better bet I would have one. There is just no way in hell I can afford to go out and purchase a brand new car at my age. I'm not one to pay payments on a car, and all of the cars I have had my name was on the title and in my hand. Though I can agree that I would rather not own an old ass honda, nissan, toyota, etc. simply because I hate how shitty that they have become over the years from repetitive abuse.

[silversol]

I haven't read this full thread. But you do realize that the acura integra is so much more to insure because its much much much much more likely to be stolen then that mustang! Also, the integra holds more value then most mustangs. Look it up, the integra is in the top 10 every year in stolen cars, as is the civic. The mustang is never to be found on that list. It's not because its new and "kids" can't afford them. But if it makes you feel better to say you own a ford mustang then an acura integra suit yourself. But it doesn't make you seem more mature or smarter then others. IMO, looking at the gas prices, i think you look the exact opposite........

reading owns you. I would rather have a 2 years old mustang then a 12 year old integra at the time. The integra had liability only insurance so if it was stolen the insurance company would not lose a penny.

Im not going to get into the whats worth more. Its just stupid Im sure the kbb is alot more on a 2004 mustang gt then it is on a 95 integra gsr you dont have to be harvard grad to figure that one out. whats a 93 gsr integra worth 2-3k tops? good luck getting a decent 93 mustang 5.0 coupe for less than 5k.

yeah the integra was the top 10 most stolen car in america. the peace of mind of not owning it was great I could go to the club in a 2 year old mustang that had every thing you could want and I never worried one time about it not being there, Unlike the 12 year old integra you always had to worry about it was stupid, The peace of mind was worth its weigh in gold! Also integras are easy to steal any low life with a screw driver can take it, Unlike the mustang with a chipped key.

Yeah it does make me feel better to own a nice mustang over a integra any day, Every time I see a integra I think kids car and so do the cops. I got pulled over so many times in the integra for window tint that was 25-30% and basicly for the cops to see what i was up to becase it was a kids car. The mustang had very very illegal window tint 5% all windows and the windshild was done all the way down in 30% you could not not see me sitting in the car from 5 ft away. It also had a very loud exaust system I never once got pulled over I would speed more that I would care to admit in it.

[CSquared]

Yeah my girls car was def in a front end... but carfax was clean as a whistle when she bought it. Carfax doesn't even pretend to be 100% accurate... There is actually a disclaimer about that when you purchase one.

Just because something is used, does not mean its abused. If you would rather have that mustang then the Porsche he posted, its probably something wrong with you mentally. BTW, since when has the mustang become known as reliable? What world is that in?

And for $30,000 I have more faith in an engine i built, compared to an engine thrown together on a assembly line in 20 minutes. Warranty doesn't help you out when you are stranded with no $ because you are paying a ridiculous monthly car payment, that most can't afford anyway.

Dude as far as I know ford is building some of the highest quality cars on the road these days, which is why they didn't take a shit like GM during the recession. If you can post some statistics to prove otherwise that would be great because I can't find anything on a google search. Plus, it doesn't even have to be ford specifically... What about the STI at 300+hp for 33k? What about the evo at 300hp for 34k? What about the genesis if they do a V8 coupe? The new toyota ft86 that's bound to get a stock turbo at some point? All cars that are reasonably priced and fun out of the box.

And if we're speaking from the perspective of having enough money to straight out spend 30k on a used car build then we'd also have said money to straight out buy a brand new mustang at the end of the model year... There would be no car payment, therefor that doesn't make sense either.

[Sinfix_15]

I think which side of this argument youre on depends on how much money you have. If i was wealthy, i would want all of the perks that come with a new car purchase. Since im not wealthy, i cant justify paying for a brand new car when used cars are so much cheaper. If you buy a new Corvette, it doesnt turn into a pumpkin new years eve.... its still a corvette.... 2 years later, 5 years later, 10 years later.

[silversol]

Well I suppose I fall into that "broke ass kid category". With that said I have a car that isn't brand new or beaten to hell and back. A lot of my time has been put into getting my car and making it the way I feel I want it to be. If I could OWN a brand new vehicle you better bet I would have one. There is just no way in hell I can afford to go out and purchase a brand new car at my age. I'm not one to pay payments on a car, and all of the cars I have had my name was on the title and in my hand. Though I can agree that I would rather not own an old ass honda, nissan, toyota, etc. simply because I hate how shitty that they have become over the years from repetitive abuse.

I am assuming by your sn you have a 99-00 Si. These i can say are one of my favorite hondas I have owned when they are stock! I dont mind a slight drop. I had a electron blue pearl one I loved the car to death! It was bone stock besides a set of springs. This was several years ago even then it was broken into twice in an attempt to steal it. I had to let go of it becase it was not worth having a car i could not drive anywhere out of fear, Could not go to the mall/ movies/ club or leave it out side of the garage over night out of fear it would not be where i left it. Good luck finding one now a days that does not have a history of theft/ accident history/ or has been mechaniced to death by kids trying to fit in with the latest fad. A good car fax on one of theses are few and far between.

[silversol]

I think which side of this argument youre on depends on how much money you have. If i was wealthy, i would want all of the perks that come with a new car purchase. Since im not wealthy, i cant justify paying for a brand new car when used cars are so much cheaper. If you buy a new Corvette, it doesnt turn into a pumpkin new years eve.... its still a corvette.... 2 years later, 5 years later, 10 years later.

I was not or am by no means wealthy just good with money. A car payment is not that hard to make if you have steady employment and wait for the right deal. I stole that mustang for 12k which at the time was a steal, had 7k in the bank from working and saving and sold the integra within days for 5k and bam new mustang in the drive way and paid for. granted this was in 05-06

[Dylan]

I am assuming by your sn you have a 99-00 Si. These i can say are one of my favorite hondas I have owned when they are stock! I dont mind a slight drop. I had a electron blue pearl one I loved the car to death! It was bone stock besides a set of springs. This was several years ago even then it was broken into twice in an attempt to steal it. I had to let go of it becase it was not worth having a car i could not drive anywhere out of fear, Could not go to the mall/ movies/ club or leave it out side of the garage over night out of fear it would not be where i left it. Good luck finding one now a days that does not have a history of theft/ accident history/ or has been mechaniced to death by kids trying to fit in with the latest fad. A good car fax on one of theses are few and far between.

I did have a milano red Si, but I sold it. That was such a great car and I plan on owning another one in the future. Theft was a big problem with it, my key whole had been busted numerous times and I got fed up with it. After a lot of money management I have an 04' rsx type-s. It's by far my favorite of all cars I have owned. It's fully loaded with an alarm so I have no worries and Police NEVER bother me.

[silversol]

Just because something is used, does not mean its abused. If you would rather have that mustang then the Porsche he posted, its probably something wrong with you mentally. BTW, since when has the mustang become known as reliable? What world is that in?

And for $30,000 I have more faith in an engine i built, compared to an engine thrown together on a assembly line in 20 minutes. Warranty doesn't help you out when you are stranded with no $ because you are paying a ridiculous monthly car payment, that most can't afford anyway.

Find me a bone stock unmolested 95 integra gsr with no bad history that has not been abused or a 99-00 si for that matter. The mustangs i have owned have been nothing but reliable never left me stranded. I have alot more faith in a factory built engine then any built engine i dont care who built it period! I know for a fact every thing is 100% brand new unlike a built motor that you dont know what corners have been cut. Even if you built it yourself did you tork everybolt to spec? Did you check every clearance? what if you made a mistake and misread a tork spec? your human it happens. I have alot more faith in ford fixing or replacing a engine if it were to fail underwarrenty then I will any engine builder or shop on the planet!

[silversol]

Find me a bone stock unmolested 95 integra gsr with no bad history that has not been abused or a 99-00 si for that matter. The mustangs i have owned have been nothing but reliable never left me stranded. I have alot more faith in a factory built engine then any built engine i dont care who built it period! I know for a fact every thing is 100% brand new unlike a built motor that you dont know what corners have been cut. Even if you built it yourself did you tork everybolt to spec? Did you check every clearance? what if you made a mistake and misread a tork spec? your human it happens. I have alot more faith in ford fixing or replacing a engine if it were to fail underwarrenty then I will any engine builder or shop on the planet!

edit the mustang i own now is 40 years old I have not started it in months I have total faith in it taking me anywhere I want to go with out needing anything besides maybe a jump from sitting and gas. I know its a well maintained car but its still 40 years old anything can happen would i take it on a road trip a cross country probably not just becase its a 40 year old car.

[Dylan]

The insurance is one third of the price than it was for my Si, which was molested to hell and back. I feel I could take my rsx anywhere I wanted to and would not be let down. It still has air conditioning , cruise control, and power steering, which damn near every honda/ acura 01' and older do not have. Its not brand new but it's better than a 5,000,000 hp turbo whatever that was built with the amount of money my car is worth.

[silversol]

The insurance is one third of the price than it was for my Si, which was molested to hell and back. I feel I could take my rsx anywhere I wanted to and would not be let down. It still has air conditioning , cruise control, and power steering, which damn near every honda/ acura 01' and older do not have. Its not brand new but it's better than a 5,000,000 hp turbo whatever that was built with the amount of money my car is worth.

someone gets it!

[-EnVus-]

I haven't read this full thread. But you do realize that the acura integra is so much more to insure because its much much much much more likely to be stolen then that mustang! Also, the integra holds more value then most mustangs. Look it up, the integra is in the top 10 every year in stolen cars, as is the civic. The mustang is never to be found on that list. It's not because its new and "kids" can't afford them. But if it makes you feel better to say you own a ford mustang then an acura integra suit yourself. But it doesn't make you seem more mature or smarter then others. IMO, looking at the gas prices, i think you look the exact opposite........

Yeah cause the new integras is what everyone wants... Oh wait they don't make Integras anymore hmm

[Sinfix_15]

The insurance is one third of the price than it was for my Si, which was molested to hell and back. I feel I could take my rsx anywhere I wanted to and would not be let down. It still has air conditioning , cruise control, and power steering, which damn near every honda/ acura 01' and older do not have. Its not brand new but it's better than a 5,000,000 hp turbo whatever that was built with the amount of money my car is worth.

You could be on to something here, all those old 90s car had shit interior with no ac, ps or anything.... new mustang interior would probably make a 90s Mazda look like shit.

[Sinfix_15]

01 porsche, same price range as 2012 mustang........

The porsche owner sure is roughing it with that rugged wood shed he calls an interior

[Sinfix_15]

OP is gonna like this one................... 1989 supra

[Dylan]

yeah see that shit sucks..you pay for what you get and technology has come a long way.

[Sinfix_15]

oh well..... a 240sx is still a shit box... i wouldnt be caught dead sitting behind the wheel of one of those, probably looks like the inside of a barn

[Dylan]

That is what it evolved into and definitely isn't an eyesore.

[Sinfix_15]

not to mention....... 240 owners are all broke ass kids who do work in their backyards, who wants anything theyve fixed up

[silversol]

not to mention....... 240 owners are all broke ass kids who do work in their backyards, who wants anything theyve fixed up

Ahh the 1% its been years since I have see a 240 on the streets with a decent paint job..... No where are is the a/c power sterring cruse control powerwindows and locks? basics that all new cars have now? And that boss 302 interior is sick! I like it over all the other cars you have posted.

[Dylan]

I always wanted to do something like that with my old 240, but the problem is resale and what it is intended to be used for. The car would be great for the person who built it to keep, but on the other hand anyone on the market may be looking for something different out of a 240 they're seeking to purchase. It's amazing to the owner and they know how to fix it because they built it, but that means that no one else would know where to begin on it.

[-EnVus-]

This isn't a 240 vs Mustang debate if it was that would been crushed already. I having owned 4 240s myself can say a Mustang is better in performance and reliability.
Key point to OPs subject guess it comes down to who has what taste and how much money at a single time.
A broke person can't argue that a new car is better. As for a rich person just has money to run out and buy a new ride.
If my options was different and I had a fat roll in my pocket my DD would be anyghing New period.

[Sinfix_15]

Ahh the 1% its been years since I have see a 240 on the streets with a decent paint job..... No where are is the a/c power sterring cruse control powerwindows and locks? basics that all new cars have now? And that boss 302 interior is sick! I like it over all the other cars you have posted.

This is my car.



side note..... if i had to pick a new car that is worth every penny..... and doesnt need anything at all.

[-EnVus-]

^then why not do a little more for a GTR and you can talk all the shit you want and be legit lol

[Dylan]

That would be pointless. He could take that money and make the corvette better than a gtr... It goes on and on lol

[-EnVus-]

That would be pointless. He could take that money and make the corvette better than a gtr... It goes on and on lol

Yeah I'd still save my couple grand or so from not buying those and buy better reliability while not going broke.....Mustang

[Dylan]

And we are back to where we began

[Sinfix_15]

gonna go ahead and settle this mustang vs corvette before it even gets started.

World's fastest "street car" used to be a mustang


The same guy got a corvette and broke his own record.

[Sinfix_15]

night folks

[-EnVus-]

Lol you seeing things who said a vette was slower ? Also I'm sure if you could afford just a quarter of the investment that corvette had you would be driving a New car. Not a money eating 240sx that has no warranty and probaly liability insurance.

[CSquared]

Lol you seeing things who said a vette was slower ? Also I'm sure if you could afford just a quarter of the investment that corvette had you would be driving a New car. Not a money eating 240sx that has no warranty and probaly liability insurance.

I really don't even know where the fuck the logic went in this thread. It went from reasonable discussion to being clogged with 99999 pointless images that have nothing to do with anything.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, this is not advocating mustangs, this is advocating all newer cars that offer good performance for the money. The mustang was another arbitrary example just like the Geo Metro. Regardless, I agree that the mustang interior is quite nice so I don't know what you're getting at.

OP is gonna like this one................... 1989 supra

By the way... That interior is done up tacky.

[Sinfix_15]

Lol you seeing things who said a vette was slower ? Also I'm sure if you could afford just a quarter of the investment that corvette had you would be driving a New car. Not a money eating 240sx that has no warranty and probaly liability insurance.

explain to me what makes a 240sx money eating. I havnt had to repair anything on my car in almost 4 years.

[Sinfix_15]

I really don't even know where the fuck the logic went in this thread. It went from reasonable discussion to being clogged with 99999 pointless images that have nothing to do with anything.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, this is not advocating mustangs, this is advocating all newer cars that offer good performance for the money. The mustang was another arbitrary example just like the Geo Metro. Regardless, I agree that the mustang interior is quite nice so I don't know what you're getting at.



By the way... That interior is done up tacky.

whats tacky about it? the removable laptop in the passenger seat? if i have a soccer ball sitting in my passenger seat, thats not part of the interior.

[CSquared]

The cheesy ass momo steering wheel and racing seats. Also the pointless ass computer covering the oem cluster. Let's just say I prefer oem look.

[Sinfix_15]

The cheesy ass momo steering wheel and racing seats. Also the pointless ass computer covering the oem cluster. Let's just say I prefer oem look.

Steering wheel looks ok to me, same for seats. 2 things i usually dont like.... but theyre at least close to factory look. Not bright red seats or chrome steering wheel. can take or leave the computer in dash

[-EnVus-]

explain to me what makes a 240sx money eating. I havnt had to repair anything on my car in almost 4 years.

Well if yours was stock the shitty suspension, shitty engine, shitty tranny, list of wiring issues and shorts over time. Leaks Etc etc etc

[quickdodge®]

^then why not do a little more for a GTR and you can talk all the shit you want and be legit lol

The GTR doesn't look nearly as good and appealing as a Vette.

I haven't read this full thread. But you do realize that the acura integra is so much more to insure because its much much much much more likely to be stolen then that mustang!.

An Integra is not even close in dollar amount to insure than a Mustang. And to address the last part of the quote, if the Integra (and Civic for that matter) is that much much much much more likely to be stolen then that mustang, then would anyone want to get one, much less dump all that money into one? Later, QD.

[Jdm94Coupe]

The GTR doesn't look nearly as good and appealing as a Vette.

Thats personal opinion, i would rather have the GTR because the vette looks the same every damn year IMO. Plus there are like 3 vettes at my job, a GTR would drop a few jaws.

An Integra is not even close in dollar amount to insure than a Mustang. And to address the last part of the quote, if the Integra (and Civic for that matter) is that much much much much more likely to be stolen then that mustang, then would anyone want to get one, much less dump all that money into one? Later, QD.

Look back at the thread, I wasn't the one who said his GSR was at much to insure as his mustang..... But BTW i drop money into my hobby because im smart.... garage... no kiddy shit here

Yeah cause the new integras is what everyone wants... Oh wait they don't make Integras anymore hmm

Go back to google. Acura RSX is the replacement for the Acura Integra in america. Oh wait thats just my common sense talking hmm

Even if you built it yourself did you tork everybolt to spec? Did you check every clearance? what if you made a mistake and misread a tork spec? your human it happens. I have alot more faith in ford fixing or replacing a engine if it were to fail underwarrenty then I will any engine builder or shop on the planet!

You have no faith because you don't know how to build an engine. Look at the ls/vtec you fucked up! You have more faith in somebody else because you don't know what the hell you are doing, how in the hell do you strip a arp stud in a block anyway, it says hand tight, can't u read?

BTW your spelling is ridiculous....once is an accident twice is just dumb.... ITS TORQUE, and WARRANTY, of course you don't trust yourself building a motor. I wouldn't even trust you with my keyboard....

AND for $30,000 I can build quite a few engines. More then ford will replace.

[quickdodge®]

Thats personal opinion, i would rather have the GTR because the vette looks the same every damn year IMO.

I agree on the personal opinion. That's why I didn't ask if you were crazy or some dumb shit like that, lolol. And of course the Vette looks (basically) the same year after year. Why mess with what works? Lolol.

Plus there are like 3 vettes at my job, a GTR would drop a few jaws.

I've just never been a Skyline fanboi. Aside from it being a new car, I don't see the appeal.

Look back at the thread, I wasn't the one who said his GSR was at much to insure as his mustang..... But BTW i drop money into my hobby because im smart.... garage... no kiddy shit here

I was just responding to you saying that an Integra would be more on insurance than a Mustang. And smart about the garage, but, I was also referring to taking your car out. This is where most thefts take place. I would hate to have to worry about my car the entire time I was in a movie theater or in the mall shopping or doing whatever that takes me away from my car. You dig? Later, QD.