Actually i know ere two are still running make really good power right now lol. One is on a fully built b16 for about five years making around 400 on low boost and the other is on mr franks that has never came together but its a 600hp set up if he can keep it together. Berta and steven made over 600 with them and shawn at upgrade did realy good with them back in the day . Im sure in your case you have seen it all and know what works best for you to be able to compete but hell id love to rock one a 400-500hp setup i dont have to be fancy lol.