allot of the dumb shit started back before honda owners started swaps. a honda owner(me) would be at a light and a mustang would pull up and rev . the whole no replacement for displacement, and rice burner comments blurted out as the mustang pulls off in a cloud of tire smoke......the tables turned when honda engine swaps came into play. the honda guys went mustang hunting and feelings were hurt...it was alright at first. i think a point was proven and it is long passed time to move on. there is always something out there that will be faster than you. truth is there are allot of ignorant people out there and it is not limited to hondas and mustangs. i am a car guy so i love the car scene as a whole