b18a all motor

[bloodline]

hmmm

[cprtyler]

basically i want to know how reliable the motor would be and if i could daily it probably not i know but i mean i hit the search bar a few times and found a few that were supposed to be that have been on the road for two or more yrs and havent had many if any problems

[Da_unknown]

its a kinda of iffy thing....u would make good power no doubt, but using it as a daily i wouldnt do it... but everthing is looking good though...

[southside]

Original setup could make up to 176whp I seen a few people on honda tech making 180-190whp with ls motors with same stuff listed and crazy port and valve jobs.

[cprtyler]

ya i seen some ppl and dyno sheets on ht too i guess its back to drawing board. i really want to hit 190 - 195 but know its going to be hard, ill probably hit the 180 mark i would guess thanks guys

[Da_unknown]

u can do it, u got the right idea about what to do..

[cprtyler]

u can do it, u got the right idea about what to do..

which part the numbers or the stroker dd

[Da_unknown]

the #s..

[cprtyler]

do think obx itbs wouldbe more affective then the sk2 im and 65mm tb with whale penis intake?

[Da_unknown]

itbs are good, but i have heard to much mixed reviews about the obx itbs.. but u hear about everything obx makes anyway... i run a obx lsd in my car and hear bad things about it... its just depends i guess

[cprtyler]

for sake of arrgument would u use any style itbs or just keep the other set up

[BABY J]

Stick w/ the 81.5mm bore if your cylinder walls look good. ALSO - have your builder weigh the rotating assembly (loaded) - it will need to be ULTRA balanced considering you have a reworked crank and intend on 1) high rpms and 2) daily driving. If that crank isn't spot on you will know b/c the mains will go to shit and possibly the oil pump gear - but I suspect Brian/Doug at BC know what they are doing. It'd be almost disrespectful to get one of their cranks turned right outta the box just to check - depends on how anal you are.

The next thing you need to consider is the head - so far it sounds like the weak link to your setup. These are the 2 affordable guys that I trust - tell either one that Baby J told you to give them a call:

http://team4piston.com/ (ask for Luke - he is the MFactory All-Motor Insight driver, and his brother is Josh - they do good work - they start w/ a CNC port (they have good CNC programs) and finish it with hand work - flow bench numbers are shipped with your head.

www.stewartengines.com - Jim needs no introduction. Here are his head programs : http://stewartengines.com/headwork.html

Jim will hook you up w/ a hand-port and he is the REAL DEAL. Flow bench numbers are shipped with your head as well.

-- If time is not on your side - then go w/ Luke - they are fairly quick. If you have more time - go w/ Jim. He is "slow" but he's a perfectionist - it will be RIGHT before he sends it back. He's an artist - artists don't like to be rushed - LOL. G/L

[cprtyler]

^^^^ thanks will def talk to them, any insight on the itbs? im really interested in making 190-195

[BABY J]

Steer clear of the ITBs for a daily is my opinion - but Luke @ Team4 Piston runs them on their Insight and can offer some additional info.

[cprtyler]

ok so pretty much stick with orinigal set up if she going to be a dd

[bloodline]

itb setup for a daily wouldnt be suck a great idea..get a s2 im with an air intake and a velocity stack..the velocity stack believe it or not will give you an extra 4 horses

[afp6171]

just why not put a fully built b16 head on it? wit some toda cams?

[BABY J]

just why not put a fully built b16 head on it? wit some toda cams?

B/c not every1 likes to build the same shit that every1 else has.

[CeOTiO8]

B/c not every1 likes to build the same shit that every1 else has.

X2... I kinda doing the same thing... The only difference is I'm using a stock block and different tranny

[cprtyler]

the reason i dont put a b16 head on it is because im building a lsv turbo too i just want to c what i can get out of my ls motor its kinda a test to c how well my csr will stack up aginst my friends car its basically 4 fun.

[bloodline]

i thought you were gonna do all motor? now lsv boost?

[94_teg_ls]

i thought you were gonna do all motor? now lsv boost?

the reason i dont put a b16 head on it is because im building a lsv turbo too i just want to c what i can get out of my ls motor its kinda a test to c how well my csr will stack up aginst my friends car its basically 4 fun.

gl

[cprtyler]

gl

thanks for clearing that up, i have two motorss one all motor one boost, the boost is lsv thats why im building a na ls

[cprtyler]

this is a email i recived from crower today just wanted ppls insight, below is my email to him also

I apologize for the delay as I have been out in the shop. We make the
pistons custom for each kit so we can do any bore and compression ratio you
choose. The 12.3:1 is a little high for pump gas. I always recommend 11.5:1
but customers do run the 12.0:1 on 93 octane. No reliability issues as the
kit is fine for the daily driven vehicle. Everything is in stock except the
pistons -14-21 day lead time on those. Give me a call @ ext 101 if you have
any questions or wish to proceed. Thank you for your interest in BC
products.

Thank you,

Dustin Spencer
-------
Brian Crower, Inc.
161 So Marshall Ave
El Cajon CA 92020
P: 619-749-9018 - ext 101
F: 619-749-9128
www.runbc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: tyler cooper [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Stroker question

Hi i know that u must get these questions all the time, i have a b18a with a
p75 obd2 head that has be ported polished 3angle valve job, has a skunk 2
intake manifold w 68mm tb, password jdm power chamber intake with velosity
stack, the valve train consists of 62404 stage 3 crower cams with ur valves,
springs, and retainers, with buddy club adjustible cam gears, im running rc
440 injectors with str fuel rail and fpr, i have stock distrubiter with
accel internal coil with nology hot wires and pulse star plugs. The head and
all parts are brand new. Now my question is if i was to buy the crower
stroker kit thats a 92mm stroke and bored cyl to 81.5mm i want a comp ratio
of 12.3:1 is that attainable or is that to low for this kit?i dont want to
run race fuel I have a block guard with a obx oil pan thats 5.5qts, my other
question is can this app be daily driven or is it to much on the motors
bottom end to daily it? I want a powerful street car and built stroker 350's
all my life and dailyd them and would like to do this with my new passion.
Any and all info would be great.

Ps i have a ctr crank pully, 12lb flywheel, stg2 clutch, and integra type r
oil pump

[cprtyler]

any comments to the reply i recived from crower

[Da_unknown]

yeah he is right anything in the 12:1 ratio will need race gas...

[cprtyler]

ok im confused now does it need race gas due to the larger stroke because i hear of guys running 12.5:1 on stock stroke using 93 octane with tune? dont get me wrong im not using this kit now just going to use my pct pistons but wanted to know ppls input for a futur build

[BABY J]

12.5:1 is about the limits of pump on 93 octane. But that is all relative to other things like timing ... you can run higher if you want - but you'd have to pull so much timing that it'd be useless. If this car will see DD duties then keep it around 12.0 or less. Also remember cold starts on high compression can be a bitch --- you only need 1 good explosion to get the engine going but finding it can be tough. Also your ignition system has to be up to the task of punching through the compression as well

Don't confuse yourself by trying too hard sir.

[cprtyler]

kool man thanks for that just was planing way ahead lol for another build

[cprtyler]

well i just got the off time to purchase some things and i just got my arp head studs, venom 440cc injectors, holly 255 fuel pump, accel coil, pulse star plugs, ctr crank pully and will be receiving my ctr pistons and a few other things in a week or so ill be posting picks soon

[Catnip]

well i just got the off time to purchase some things and i just got my arp head studs, venom 440cc injectors, holly 255 fuel pump, accel coil, pulse star plugs, ctr crank pully and will be receiving my ctr pistons and a few other things in a week or so ill be posting picks soon

440cc injectors will be over kill. ITR's put down what, 185whp stock? Why would you need injectors bigger than that? Also, you should've ordered an OEM coil.

[Starrfire]

Yeah the coil is a bad idea, they are not gonna help. Actually it would probably do nothing at all. Honda ignition systems are very hot anyways.

The injectors are a waste of money, you aren't going to make over 190 wheel so you spent money just to say you had injectors on it.

Plus I don't think the 13.1:1 cr will be very becoming for a wheezing engine. P30 would have been the way to go. You are effectively making the engine less efficient by splitting the combustion in half with ctr's. The way to do it would be just flat top 10:1 pistons with a modified combustion chamber. So basically you should have bought some different pistons b/c you won't make a marginal increase in power from them, just problems.

[patrick2876]

how much is this costing you?

[cprtyler]

the injectors are for future reasons i have around 1600 in total build and thats all new parts, i have researched the pct pistons in a ls and they have great results in built ls, the coil was free due to a gift certific so its no biggie

[cprtyler]

some of the parts

[cprtyler]

will have more pics up shortly

[cprtyler]

heres a few more pics

[Da_unknown]

allmost time to put it all together

[cprtyler]

^^ very close man very close