Car of the Decade!?

[MachNU]

How was the car a disappointment? It was highly lauded by virtually every single member of the automotive world, not to mention all the fanboys.

Not really. Every fanboy loved it before it came out, but after it did not hold up. When people realized they paided $80-100k for a car that had a shit warrenty. You could not do anything with it without breaking the warrenty. Then you could not turn off the TC button or you voided the warrenty. Which they came with a POS tranny from the factory. Was it a nice car year, but it wasnt Nissan's best. It might have been the best USDM Nissan, but far from there best. Even more so when the C6 Z06, ZR1, & ACR destroyed that car all performance catagories, and cost either roughly the same price or less.

Hell go read about the all the class action lawsuits against Nissan and the GTR.

[stormcrow]

Not really. Every fanboy loved it before it came out, but after it did not hold up. When people realized they paided $80-100k for a car that had a shit warrenty. You could not do anything with it without breaking the warrenty. Then you could not turn off the TC button or you voided the warrenty. Which they came with a POS tranny from the factory. Was it a nice car year, but it wasnt Nissan's best. It might have been the best USDM Nissan, but far from there best. Even more so when the C6 Z06, ZR1, & ACR destroyed that car all performance catagories, and cost either roughly the same price or less.

Hell go read about the all the class action lawsuits against Nissan and the GTR.

More misinformation being spread through those who are ill-informed. Just a few facts for you:

1 - VDC off driving does NOT void the warranty

2 - the GR6 transmission is actually a very stout transmission. the majority of the failures stemmed from abuse of the "launch control". it was usually the first gear that gave way. there is very little wheel-spin with the AWD of the GT-R but a lot of wheel-hop. this will destroy any transmission.

3 - minor modifications do not void the warranty. the Nissan has warranted failed transmissions even though the owners had flashed the ECU with Cobb Access Ports. would Chevrolet? Would Chrysler?

4 - the C6 Z06 has never come close to the performance of the GT-R. the ZR1 tried, but fell short in Ring times. a revamp of the dampners on the ZR1 has pushed its times close(r). but, comparing 130k to 80k is not quite apples to apples. the ACR? not even a production car. good luck picking up one at anywhere near the cost of a GT-R.

5 - the class action lawsuits against Nissan are over. Nissan made changes to the 'launch control' and people who used LC1 are granted immunity.

i'm not a fanboy. i am an owner. i have my qualms with the GT-R. i think the paint sucks and is pure Nissan crap. i have seen harder paint on a Versa. they re-invented problems already fixed in other models such as tire feathering in the front, clicking axels and failing steering wheel locks. (same as the Murano) but, for an 80k supercar, it can't be beat.

[JITB]

More misinformation being spread through those who are ill-informed. Just a few facts for you:

1 - VDC off driving does NOT void the warranty

2 - the GR6 transmission is actually a very stout transmission. the majority of the failures stemmed from abuse of the "launch control". it was usually the first gear that gave way. there is very little wheel-spin with the AWD of the GT-R but a lot of wheel-hop. this will destroy any transmission.

3 - minor modifications do not void the warranty. the Nissan has warranted failed transmissions even though the owners had flashed the ECU with Cobb Access Ports. would Chevrolet? Would Chrysler?

4 - the C6 Z06 has never come close to the performance of the GT-R. the ZR1 tried, but fell short in Ring times. a revamp of the dampners on the ZR1 has pushed its times close(r). but, comparing 130k to 80k is not quite apples to apples. the ACR? not even a production car. good luck picking up one at anywhere near the cost of a GT-R.

5 - the class action lawsuits against Nissan are over. Nissan made changes to the 'launch control' and people who used LC1 are granted immunity.

i'm not a fanboy. i am an owner. i have my qualms with the GT-R. i think the paint sucks and is pure Nissan crap. i have seen harder paint on a Versa. they re-invented problems already fixed in other models such as tire feathering in the front, clicking axels and failing steering wheel locks. (same as the Murano) but, for an 80k supercar, it can't be beat.

im glad there is a GTR owner on here now to separate BS from Facts... b/c i went grey doing so....


The fact that EVo was the first choice in this thread... makes it a horrible thread already...lol

Veyron hands down... nothing else can touch it right now..

[MachNU]

More misinformation being spread through those who are ill-informed. Just a few facts for you:

1 - VDC off driving does NOT void the warranty

2 - the GR6 transmission is actually a very stout transmission. the majority of the failures stemmed from abuse of the "launch control". it was usually the first gear that gave way. there is very little wheel-spin with the AWD of the GT-R but a lot of wheel-hop. this will destroy any transmission.

3 - minor modifications do not void the warranty. the Nissan has warranted failed transmissions even though the owners had flashed the ECU with Cobb Access Ports. would Chevrolet? Would Chrysler?

4 - the C6 Z06 has never come close to the performance of the GT-R. the ZR1 tried, but fell short in Ring times. a revamp of the dampners on the ZR1 has pushed its times close(r). but, comparing 130k to 80k is not quite apples to apples. the ACR? not even a production car. good luck picking up one at anywhere near the cost of a GT-R.

5 - the class action lawsuits against Nissan are over. Nissan made changes to the 'launch control' and people who used LC1 are granted immunity.

i'm not a fanboy. i am an owner. i have my qualms with the GT-R. i think the paint sucks and is pure Nissan crap. i have seen harder paint on a Versa. they re-invented problems already fixed in other models such as tire feathering in the front, clicking axels and failing steering wheel locks. (same as the Murano) but, for an 80k supercar, it can't be beat.

See you just posted all the same things I did, and yet you say its still teh car of the decade? It had problems from the factory, Nissan was anal as hell about warrenty to the point of a lawsuit. The first gears gave away with little pressure from launching it, etc.

Also ring time you say the GTR is better? Wrong. GTR best offical time before production release was 7:38, ZR1 pre release time was 7:26.8. There was an unoffical time for the GTR at 7:28, but again that was unoffical.

I am a Nissan Fanboy, and still say the GTR is crap, the R33/34 are still the best skylines to come from Nissan.

Price, ACR is now no longer in production, but was msrp'ed around $95k. ZR1, msrp'ed around $105k. GTR was msrp'ed around $85k. It might be the cheapiest but not by much. The zr1 and acr for more money out class the gtr in every aspect.

[stormcrow]

See you just posted all the same things I did, and yet you say its still teh car of the decade? It had problems from the factory, Nissan was anal as hell about warrenty to the point of a lawsuit. The first gears gave away with little pressure from launching it, etc.

Also ring time you say the GTR is better? Wrong. GTR best offical time before production release was 7:38, ZR1 pre release time was 7:26.8. There was an unoffical time for the GTR at 7:28, but again that was unoffical.

I am a Nissan Fanboy, and still say the GTR is crap, the R33/34 are still the best skylines to come from Nissan.

Price, ACR is now no longer in production, but was msrp'ed around $95k. ZR1, msrp'ed around $105k. GTR was msrp'ed around $85k. It might be the cheapiest but not by much. The zr1 and acr for more money out class the gtr in every aspect.

your facts are so skewwed. let's make some corrections.

1 - i never voted for the GT-R as car of the decade. but, i am now saying that, yes, it should be a very strong contender for obvious technological reasons.

2 - there are two official video documented GT-R laptimes on the Ring with Toshio driving: one at 7:29.03 and one at 7:26.70

3 - "little pressure" busting the first gear?? i think not. repeated abuse from launching 480hp at 4500rpm on streets that are not prepped. i don't consider that "little pressure".

4 - yes, the R33/R34 are the best Skylines to come from Nissan. the R35 is not a Skyline. that moniker was dropped and now the Skyline is what the USDM calls the G35/G37.

5 - if you believe the ZR1 or ACR "out class" the GT-R, then you are biased and there is no room for debate.