Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U View Post
See you just posted all the same things I did, and yet you say its still teh car of the decade? It had problems from the factory, Nissan was anal as hell about warrenty to the point of a lawsuit. The first gears gave away with little pressure from launching it, etc.

Also ring time you say the GTR is better? Wrong. GTR best offical time before production release was 7:38, ZR1 pre release time was 7:26.8. There was an unoffical time for the GTR at 7:28, but again that was unoffical.

I am a Nissan Fanboy, and still say the GTR is crap, the R33/34 are still the best skylines to come from Nissan.

Price, ACR is now no longer in production, but was msrp'ed around $95k. ZR1, msrp'ed around $105k. GTR was msrp'ed around $85k. It might be the cheapiest but not by much. The zr1 and acr for more money out class the gtr in every aspect.
your facts are so skewwed. let's make some corrections.

1 - i never voted for the GT-R as car of the decade. but, i am now saying that, yes, it should be a very strong contender for obvious technological reasons.

2 - there are two official video documented GT-R laptimes on the Ring with Toshio driving: one at 7:29.03 and one at 7:26.70

3 - "little pressure" busting the first gear?? i think not. repeated abuse from launching 480hp at 4500rpm on streets that are not prepped. i don't consider that "little pressure".

4 - yes, the R33/R34 are the best Skylines to come from Nissan. the R35 is not a Skyline. that moniker was dropped and now the Skyline is what the USDM calls the G35/G37.

5 - if you believe the ZR1 or ACR "out class" the GT-R, then you are biased and there is no room for debate.