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    No, they've been legal to bring in for several years now. But there's more to that then what's mentioned..... there's no OBDII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type-R View Post
    No, they've been legal to bring in for several years now. But there's more to that then what's mentioned..... there's no OBDII.
    yeah all 1996 R33s are "legal" to import, but they dont possess OBD2 capability so they will NEVER be made legal in the eyes of the FED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    yeah all 1996 R33s are "legal" to import, but they dont possess OBD2 capability so they will NEVER be made legal in the eyes of the FED.

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    NHTSA doesn't have a hand in the OBDII world, that is the EPA's cup of tea. RB's will pass emissions with alittle bit of care, the issue isn't that it's not possible to do OBDII on a R33, it's that no one has a system up and running for the compliance process.

    Now if a RI has access to a system and can get a ICI to install it then all is well, but again, it's not that it can't be done it's that no one has one yet. However, JK Tech claims they are able to do this and I'm sure if that is accurate that they obtained the rights and privacy to the designs so no other RI could use it, just as they did with the air bag system that's required for the complaince process as per the Addendum A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type-R View Post
    NHTSA doesn't have a hand in the OBDII world, that is the EPA's cup of tea. RB's will pass emissions with alittle bit of care, the issue isn't that it's not possible to do OBDII on a R33, it's that no one has a system up and running for the compliance process.

    Now if a RI has access to a system and can get a ICI to install it then all is well, but again, it's not that it can't be done it's that no one has one yet. However, JK Tech claims they are able to do this and I'm sure if that is accurate that they obtained the rights and privacy to the designs so no other RI could use it, just as they did with the air bag system that's required for the complaince process as per the Addendum A.
    so youre talking about a backward engineered OBD2 electronics system that will pass EPA standards?

    awesome im sure its a $200,000 skyline now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    so youre talking about a backward engineered OBD2 electronics system that will pass EPA standards?

    awesome im sure its a $200,000 skyline now
    I'm not a systems engineer so I cannot number crunch for you but I do have a proposed OBDII system document and I can tell you that the numbers are more in the #### digit range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type-R View Post
    I'm not a systems engineer so I cannot number crunch for you but I do have a proposed OBDII system document and I can tell you that the numbers are more in the #### digit range.
    Then whoever owns it, and can implement it is selling it too cheap.

    If i possessed the only tech that would make a LEGAL R33 in the country, there is almost no price tag for that.

    The motors ARE LEGAL though thats the point. All EPA says is SAME YEAR OR NEWER. Now in CALI its much more strict. But until that spreads across the nation, it is what it is.

    just like skylines, state titled ones in NC, FL, SC, GA whatever, dont get a second look from the local authorities, but if the FEDs find you your in trouble.

    Ive owned SIlvias, i knew perfectly well than they were ILLEGAL an drove them anyway. But if for some reason the FEDs pulled me over i was prepared to lose the car on the off chance that happened.

    FEDs arent looking for illegal motors right now, they are looking for skylines. That may change soon enough though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    Then whoever owns it, and can implement it is selling it too cheap.

    If i possessed the only tech that would make a LEGAL R33 in the country, there is almost no price tag for that.
    I wouldn't because to expensive means no one will buy it. Since the Addendum A was released any RI/ICI could team up and develope a working OBDII system if they wanted to. It'd be stupid for a company to develope one and try to corner the market when Joe Smuckatelly down the street can make his own "cost effective" version that would knock the competition out of business.

    Motorex went wrong with many things, one of them was overcharging for compliance work. Taking a $10,000 car and turning it into a $70,000 car causing them to have very little sales and no profit to repay expenses already dished out.

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