im not going to win this battle. we have two completely different views. i like drifting. you could care less for it. im not into road courses. not realy my thing. does it take skill yes. but my car is not set up for that. it completely set up for the total opposite. im trying to break traction and your trying to keep it. its a on going battle that neither of us are going to win so im stepping back and saying good luck with whatever your doing. i hope it works out with you. and good night.